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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystery Solver: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: I must again point out that the Hebrews' presence in Egypt as claimed in their texts was specifically in Goshen which is the eastern Delta area directly in front of Sinai. So the question is were they native Egyptians absorbed by Asiatics or Asiatics influenced by Egyptians??[/QUOTE]I've already gone through how the Israelite forbearers spread into the Levant, and how so, because it happened to coincide with a time wherein Egyptian authority would have still been present in the region though relatively weakened, but at the same time, frequent Sea People invasions were taking place in the region. So Israelites would have likely been selective in their approach to settling areas of Canaan, which again I've already noted, and as further evidenced by accounts in "The Song of Deborah". [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: You and your source make pretty valid points about the very existence or nature of the purported 'Twelve Tribes' of Israel. Note that this theme was seen even before the birth of Jacob/Israel, where Abraham's eldest son Ishmael also had twelve sons who became founders and chieftains of their own tribes. Thus the twelve tribes of Ishmael were Nebaioth, Kedar, Adbeel, Mibsam, Mishma, Dumah, Massa, Hadad, Tema, Jetur, Naphish, and Kedemah. These twelve Ishmaelite tribes were named after the sons of Ishmael by an Egyptian wife. So again, we have another of many connections the Hebrews have to Egypt. And is it possible the Biblical enumeration of 12 may derive from ancient beliefs other than Egyptian like those of ancient Cannan and Babylon??[/QUOTE]Greenberg gives several *specific* Egyptian sources that strongly correlate with Israelite themes, i.e. too strong to be just mere coincidences. Of course, as I have noted, Canaanite theological themes had also influenced the Israelites, such that you get themes from both the Nile Valley and Canaan. It should come as no mystery, as to why that would be the case. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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