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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystery Solver: [QB] An edited version of the above, since [i]that[/i] function amongst others cease to exist: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: The parameter(s) I use is that where ever a cultural tradition first occurs,temporally , it is that place where the cultural complex originated. [/QUOTE]Would this be a single tradition or multiple? If multiple, please lay out the "full range" of the criterea used; If single, how can you claim that a "complex" culture is of so and so origin based on a single "tradition", while ignoring other traditions that may or may not have been imported? Moreover: In other for you to claim that a cultural complex at a certain location is not of in situ origin, you'd have to prove that there was no cultural complex there to begin? Can you show us how your claim about the "Tihama" complex fits into this criterea. [QUOTE]Clyde: 3) oldest evidence of writing existing in Ethiopia (Drewes 1962), not Yemen.[/QUOTE]What was this "script" called and what date has specifically been attributed to this script, in the exact words of the cited author; not to mention why he said so? Present the 'specifics' contained in this 'evidence' in the words of the author you attribute it to. I have cited several others, who talk about the "Epigraphic [b]South Arabian[/b]" script in both south Arabia and in the African horn, spanning more or less the same time era. Although, I don't have the specifics, Munro-Hay mentioned "new" discoveries in Yemen, involving "paleography", that may push date-approximations of the Ethio-Sabean contact in pre-Aksume complex back to ca. 800th cen. or so. I suspect this includes the south Arabian scripts that one website attributed to Minean dialect. Now, Epigraphic "South Arabian" is not something that implies "Ethiopic" script; similarily "Sabean" script as you keep referring to it, does not imply "Ethiopic". You also ignore the fact that the "Epigraphic South Arabian" scripts found in Ethiopia, are written both in pure Sabean, and some unidentified, presumably local Ethiopic language. Why is that? Have you identified some Ethiopic language in "Sabean/ESA" script in South Arabia? If not, Why? It would also be interesting how you address Daniels' notes on those early scripts found. [QUOTE]Clyde: Put these elements together we have to acknowledge that the Sabaeans and their writing probably originated in Ethiopia not Yemen.[/QUOTE]Nobody but you, claims that Sabeans are local Pre-Aksumites, rather than South Arabians, who had contact with the locals of the Pre-Aksumite complex in early first Millenium B.C. Next, you'll tell us that Saba was in Ethiopia, right? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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