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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Supercar: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: To claim that the South Arabians domenated the trade is pure speculation at this point given the lack of archaeological and epigraphic evidence from South Arabia, dating to a period earlier than the evidence discovered in Ethiopia.[/QUOTE]Fattovich has spelt out the indicators for this, and yet you refuse to see it. That is a personal problem you have to deal with. Again, list all the evidence uncovered in South Arabia, and how this relates to your unfounded idea there are no evidence of Sabean complex contemporaneous to Sabean [i]involvement[/i] in the Pre-Aksumite complex, in the face of a dose of examples already provided herein to the contrary. If the South Arabians didn't have considerable hold on the Red Sea trade route, explain the linguistic aspect of the inscriptions on both sides of the Red Sea, as I had requested earlier. [QUOTE]Clyde: Granted we assume that culture elements such as the politico-religious term such as "mukarrib," is a traditional South Arabian term, [b]yet this can not be proven by the South Arabia evidence which dates to a much later period.[/b][/QUOTE]See post above, about your need to fulfill the outstanding requests, pertaining to evidence. [QUOTE]Clyde: The fact that it comes from a later period suggest that the original Sabaeans may have originally lived in Ethiopia and later formed colonies in South Arabia.[/QUOTE]The actual fact is, that you have no foundations for this claim whatsoever. [QUOTE]Clyde: This suggest to me that Sabaean was a lingua franca in Ethiopia and South Arabia, until the Ethiopians decided to write their inscriptions in Ge'ez.[/QUOTE]"Pure" Sabean language [i]was[/i] the first language of Sabeans. The same cannot be said of the Pre-Aksumites. [QUOTE]Clyde: They may have made this switch to differiate themselves from the South Arabias, when they began to worship a different religion.[/QUOTE]As the experts cited here have pointed out, it doesn't appear that the "inscriptional" distinctly-identifiable Sabeans, appeared so, for more than a century. There was clearly Sabeans sporting their separate identity at the early periods of the "Sabean" influenced Pre-Aksumite complex. You find it convenient to simply ignore Stuart's point about these folks maintaining contact with their fellow Sabeans in the Saba complex, while not addressing it. [QUOTE]Clyde: No matter, I must concede to Supercar that his propositions are supported by most experts so I will leave this debate .[/QUOTE]In other words, you know that your arguments are at large based on wishful thinking rather than material. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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