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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystery Solver: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundiata: ^^This is extremely telling, however, the entire Askumite/Sabean debate(if there even is one) seems to center around culture and modern genetics, but I'm interested in any population studies by way of skeletal remains also and if ancient Dm't and Askumite samples would subsume(craniofacially) modern day Habesha and Cushitic-speakers.(?) There is nothing in history which would argue otherwise, but it would be insightful nonetheless..[/QUOTE]To date I haven't come across any skeletal or cranio-metric study that suggests there was a significant break between prehistoric sub-Saharan East Africans [from the anatomically modern human standpoint] and contemporary ones. This place has always hosted a diversity of phenotypes, as seen even to this day in the region. Here is a recap of a Hiernaux extract that the poster S. Mohammad [used to post here] brought to my attention: [i]At Gamble's Cave in Kenya, five human skeletons were associated with a late phase of the industry, Upper Kenya Capsian C, which contains pottery. A similar associationis presumed for a skeleton found at Olduvai, which resembles those from Gamble's Cave. The date of Upper Kenya Capsian C is not precisely known (an earlier phase from Prospect Farm on Eburru Mountain close to Gamble's Cave has been dated to about 8000 BC); but the presence of pottery indicates a rather later date, perhaps around 400 BC. The skeletons are of [b]very tall people.[/b] They had long, narrow heads, and relatively long, narrow faces. The nose was of medium width; and prognathism, when present, was restricted to the alveolar, or tooth-bearing, region. Many authors regard these people as physically akin to the Mediterraneans, hence the label of 'Caucasoids' (or European-like) generally attached to them. However, [b]all their features can be found in several living populations of East Africa, like the Tutsi of Rwanda and Burundi, who are very dark skinned and differ greatly from Europeans in anumber of body proportions[/b]............. From the foregoing, it is tempting to locate the area of differentiation of these people in the interior of East Africa. Now, as mentioned in Chapter 3, the fossil record tells of tall people with long and narrow heads, faces and noses who lived a few thousand years BC in East Africa at such places as Gamble's Cave in the Kenya Rift Valley and at Olduvai in northern Tanzania. There is every reason to believe that they are ancestral to the living 'Elongated East Africans'. Neither of these populations, fossil and modern, should be considered to be closely related to Caucasoids of Europe and western Asia, as they usually are in literature.[/i] Jean Hiernaux The People of Africa(Peoples of the World Series) pgs 42-43, 62-63 Going back much further in time: A pleistocene crania bearing 'stereotyped Negro' traits had been uncovered in Ethiopia amongst other early anatomically modern human specimens, given the name 'Herto Man'. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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