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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mustafino: [QB] [QUOTE]Pacal: Regarding the 100 here are my comments. 1, Unexceptional,although I'm not aware that Homo Sapiens was found at Omo. 2, I am not sure of the date of Australopithecus Ramidus otherwise unremarkable. 3, I've heard about such discoveries in Africa involving early Homo Sapiens. 4, Interesting if True. 5, Such notched artifacts have also been discovered in Europe. I think there may be a bit of over interpretation here. 6, Interesting if true. However the date of about 12,000 years ago is still about c. 10,000 B.C.E. which is about the time cultivation began in the Fertile Crescent. 7, Lots of People practice mummification. This seems to assume that it spread from that area of Africa to other places. 8, Not the old date of the Sphinx nonsense. Lets just say its disputable. 9, Dubious, and we all know about the reliability of Newspaper articles. 10, Wow! studies show that the Ancient Egyptians are Africans. just what anyone would expect. Thats not the question the question is the closeness with Sub-Saharan Africans. 11, And? Combs don't exactly have a huge range of shapes. 12, Unexceptional comment. 13, I would disagree with the hyperbole, but again unexceptional. 14, Interesting if true. 15, Sounds like a typical Egyptian Nobles Mansion. 16, Is this true or misrepresented? 17, Toilets and sewage Systems existed in Manjo Daro in India 1000 years earlier to say nothing of the Palace at Knossos. 18, Really, what about Peru and Mexico? But I guess its about how you define Pyramid. 19, I believe Meroe became capital after 590 B.C.E. Since Meroe was capital well into the Roman pyramid nothing exceptional about a Roman style Bath house. 20, Again hardly unique to Meroe although I believe the Gold was stripped by the times Archaeologists got to it. 21, I'm not sure about the date but it sounds like it was inspired by the alphabet. I wonder if the presence of Jewish mercenaries at Elephantine using the Hebrew alphabet played any role? 22, I suspect that the early date is too early. 23, Interesting. 24, I,m not sure about the date but certainly by C.E. 1 there was a settlement at Jhenne. 25, I have my doubts about the pop. figure but Ghana's wealth and trading connections are well known to Archaeologists anyway. 26, Again unexceptional although I suspect by "cities" the writer was including walled villages also if he says "thousands". 27, Interesting but the point? 28, Interesting if true. But such banking practices existed in Islamic countries, Even in Europe crude versions of these practices existed. (Carrying large amounts of cold cash could be dangerous). In China such practices including Paper money existed by then in there then most advanced form. 29, Hyperbole by an author isn't much evidence. Ghana despite its wealth in gold was almost certainly far less wealthy than China for example or for Fatimid Egypt. 30, Sure! Extremely dubious. 31, Interesting but the point? 32, The Romans had glass windows. 33, Interesting. 34, Interesting. 35, I would like to know the source of the Quote. Otherwise its personal opinion. I agree that Yoruba metal work was indeed very good. 36, The point? lots of structures can be said to resemble step pyramids. 37, Interesting. 38, Again the Romans had glass windows. 39, More hyperbole. Although Mali was indeed very rich in gold. Again China was indisputably the wealthiest country on earth at the time. 40, There is lots to dispute about in this Mali ruler. His achievement have become encrusted with reams of legend. weather he ever sailed is disputed and there seems to be NO evidence of them getting to America. 41, Both interesting and amazingly apparently true!! 42, I would like to know the source of that quote. It reads like hyperbole besides how can you estimate that? 43, I believe this is from the Travels of Ian Buttana a Moslem traveler. 44, The Source for the Quote? 45, The Schools are known, the numbers I suspect are inflated. 46, sounds like hyperbole and numbers inflation although it is true that Timbuktu was a intellectual center. 47, A bit of hyperbole. Although it is true that a considerable number of old books are in private hands in parts of West Africa especially in Timbuktu. Conservation is urgently needed. The numbers are dubious. 48, Source? 49, I think Palin said something like that, but again the basis for this comment? 50, No big deal so did a lot of prior empires. 51, Interesting if true. Source? 52, Aside from the hyperbole Benin bronzes are indeed of very high quality. 53, Sounds accurate. 54, Source? Wouldn't be surprised if true. (After all what about ancient Peruvian textiles) 55, Sounds like hyperbole. 56, Source? 57, Source? Interesting if True? 58, Sounds about right. 59, I think this is correct. 60, Nothing unusual. 61, The quarter of a million figure sounds like hyperbole. 62, Quite believable. Source? 63, Dubious. 64, Possibly true. 65, Pop. figures are dubious. 66, Impressive, but I'm not sure if is in fact the largest. 67, Name of Scholar? I don't think gold coins are so rare. 68, I've heard this myself. It is far from proven. 69, Source of the Persian Clerics comment? 70, Lalibela is indeed a world wonder. 71, The figure sounds like hyperbole but rock cut churches are indeed found throughout Ethiopia. 72, I'm not sure if this is true. 73, The 600 figure here is reasonable but I'm unsure of the word origin given. 74, The 100,000 tons sounds like hyperbole, and London's pop. was more like 30,000. 75, Interesting. 76, Very dubious. 77, Likely true but the source? 78, They probably did mine gold on a massive scale. However the figures read like hyperbole. 79, Since Monamotapa traded with all sorts of people including the Portuguese this would not be unusual. 80, Interesting if true, but not unique. 81, No they havn't. Besides what do you mean by "precolonial"? If you mean before 18.00 C.E., well DUH!! 82, If true fasinating, source please. 83, Dubious. And a Lunar calendar of 354 days sounds terribly Muslim. 84, Interesting. Source please, not a vague reference. 85, True. 86, Wouldn't be surprised if true. 87, Sigh! The Romans had windows. 88, Probably true. 89, Probably true. 90, source please. 91, I'm not sure. Possible. 92, Would not be surprised. 93, So? 94, True. 95, Dubious. 96, Dubious. 97, Who is this person? Source? 98, Source? 99, Wouldn't be surprised if true. The name of the archaeologist would be nice. 100, A Chinese explorer Cheung Hu brought the giraffe. [/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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