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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wisdom: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by legeonas: [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mystery Solver: Immaterial. You didn't answer a direct/concise question asked, which says that you are incapable of answering it.[/QUOTE]Nice try. Your question was a scapegoat. As you are defending a claim based on Grimaldi, you shof first that it is closer to modern Africans than Cromagnon is to modern Europeans. Nice scapegoat though.[/QUOTE]Citation for my "defense", please. I questioned based on this...from you: [b]legeonas wrote[/b]: [i]One, Grimaldi man was actually a boy and his mother. [b]They were found among Cor-Magnon. An outlier. So they were hardly the majority.[/b] Finally we have no clue as to Grimaldi's skin color. Back on topic. Whatever colors Europeans had at the time, they were still European.[/i] ^This is what prompted my question. [QUOTE] legeonas: [QUOTE]You evaded the question asked again. You proclaimed to have read the link to a publication from the William himself, and yet failed to act on the request made of you. Thus you have no case, until you address this. Do you have to have Yurco read the link in question [i]for you[/i], before you actually have the backbone to answer a simple question?[/QUOTE]Nice try. Yurco is dead.[/QUOTE]Don’t look at me, you are the one who suggested that I look at Yurco's comment which doesn’t address the question pertaining to your obligation to tell us what is wrong with what William said therein...i.e. in the link. [QUOTE]legeonas: And his response post date Williams rebuttal. Show that Williams addressed what Yurco stated.[/QUOTE]Immaterial. Tell me what is wrong with what William’s said in the link provided. Are you saying you don’t know what is wrong with what is said in the link? This is the third time you’ve been requested, and you failed to deliver. [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE]You've acknowledge yourself that the Nagada elites in question are deemed to be distinct from other specimens from "ordinary" local burials dating to that period. Again, you have no case; "denial" is not a form of case, addressing the evidence [i]objectively[/i] to the contrary, however, [i]is[/i]. [/QUOTE]Again, nice scapegoat. Feel free to show how that study makes any claim of relationship other than skeletal phenotype similarity.[/QUOTE]The study was already posted. Did you not understand it? You want me to spoon feed you ? Sure, why not… [i]"A biological affinities study based on frequencies of cranial nonmetric traits in skeletal samples from three[b] cemeteries at predynastic Naqada[/b], Egypt, confirms the results of a recent nonmetric dental morphological analysis. Both cranial and dental traits analyses indicate that the individuals buried in a cemetery characterized archaeologically as high status are[b]** significantly different from individuals buried in two other, apparently nonelite cemeteries and that the nonelite samples are not significantly different from each other.**[/b] A comparison with neighboring Nile Valley skeletal samples suggests that the high status cemetery represents [b]an endogamous ruling or elite segmen[/b]t of the local population at Naqada, [b]**which is more closely related to populations in** northern Nubia** than to neighboring populations in southern Egypt.**[/b][/i] Extract from: American Journal of Physical Anthropology, Vol. 101, Issue 2, October 1996, Pages: 237-246 [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE]He hasn't refuted the findings. Having said that, questioning in itself in of no relevance; the real question is whether his question has any material value, which in this case, you haven't yet demonstrated that he did.[/QUOTE]Lack of a quantitative sampling that is statistically representative of the population claimed.[/QUOTE]What specific samples did Zakrzewski study; did she specify them, the locations they were found, and the dates they belong to…and what bearing does this have on the consistent findings of ‘tropical body plans’ of the specimens? [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE]Immaterial. Samples were enough, since they all correspond to the [i]same findings[/i]: "Tropical body plan" time and again...just as other researchers noted in the study had observed prior to Zakrzewski.[/QUOTE]Again, show that the samplings were sufficient. Neither you or I saw the sampling group. But obviously one peer at least called her on it.[/QUOTE]I know what samples she used and the numbers; the question is: do you? I also know that this has no bearings on the validity of her findings, and that the so-called ‘peer’s’ review doesn’t refute or even address this. So the question is: can you? [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE]But we have Diop's studies, and the specifics involved. You don't for your source, and so, your post is pointless - it was posted just for the sake of arguing without material value.[/QUOTE]Show me Diop's study on melanin in mummies. Not his subsequent summary. I'll await your evidence.[/QUOTE]Has nothing to do with the discussion at hand. Your post was pointless – you had no clue what it entailed. [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE]It is immaterial. Show me genetically, and structurally/gramatically and etmologically, how Meroitic is developed from European or Indian scripts, as opposed to pre-existing indigenous Nile Valley ones.[/QUOTE]Strawman, no one said the language was influenced. They said the alphabet was. [/QUOTE]Can’t even recognize a contradiction right on your nose: you claim ‘no one’ said the language was influenced, only to then say that the “alphabet’ was. Is the alphabet of the Meroitic script not part of the script? Produce evidence that the Merotic alphabet structurally and genetically derive from European or Indian scripts rather than indigenous development. [QUOTE]legeonas: Much like syllabaries in Africa and Native America sprung when exposed to European or other syllabaries.[/QUOTE]Which native African writings are you referring to? [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE]Hence, it was a pointless post, because you had no clue about what you were posting.[/QUOTE]Wrong, relevant, but no more important to me as the other quote is to you. As both are lacking substantiation.[/QUOTE]Which quote of mine are you referring to, and how is it lacking substantiation as it pertains to this discussion? You, on the other hand, have confirmed that your post was pointless, because you don’t even know what it entails. [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE]It isn't. Meroitic is easily shown to be a derivative of Demotic, which it structurally also resembles, albeit with unique Meroitic characteristics.[/QUOTE]Then you can show that the alphabetic system exists in Demotic.[/QUOTE]The alphabetic part is the local Meroitic development, along with additional elements, but the structure of basic letters closely resembles Demotic, and then Heratic script. It doesn’t resemble Greek, Roman or Indian, as it closely does with pre-existing Nile Valley scripts. The burden is on “you” to produce the development of Meroitic from European or Indian scripts as opposed to pre-existing Nile Valley scripts, not me. [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE]What technology did Europe have at the height of Malian complex's wealth? However knowledge in Mali is well attested to in its wealth and the body of evidential material of literature, and other associated relics saved from that period. What was "London's" technology at the height of the Malian wealth?[/QUOTE] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Medieval_technology I noticed you didn't address it.[/QUOTE]Well, lay out the specifics of technology that London had [developed by the people of London at the time], at the height of Malian complex’s wealth. A link to wiki doesn’t do this. Layout the timeframes of technology, and how this correlates with the developments in ancient Malia, at the height of its wealth, i.e. the same time frames, and how London was even on the “economic” map of the world during the height of the Malian complex. [QUOTE]legeonas: [QUOTE] [QUOTE] [QUOTE]I ask again, what "primary texts", not "Ecowas" [Ecowas doesn't date to that period, nor is it a "primary text"], dating back to the period coinciding with the height of Malian complex, tells us about the population numbers of that complex? [/QUOTE]First answer your own question. What primary sources do you have? Encarta is the one that states that it was 40,000 in the 16th century.[/QUOTE]I can't, because it is responding to your baseless charges. [/QUOTE]Which is responding to the baseless claims without documentation you are defending. [/QUOTE]Please cite the “baseless” claim that I’m defending, and why it is supposed to relieve you from substantiating the above. Thanx. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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