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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Knowledgeiskey718: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bettyboo: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by rasol: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bettyboo: Yes, that is the interview. It wasn't a long interview only about 7-10 minutes. He brought the TWO skulls to show that the Sahara had TWO distinct populations. This is why I am so skeptical. Why is there only 'TWO' distinct populations? As large as the Sahara is there had to be more than just "two" distinct groups. [/QUOTE]You are right on this point. All outdated theories of cranial race rely on the same fallacy. Almost anywhere in modern Africa it is possible to find skulls with markededly different appearances, even within individual ethnic groups. When race-craniometrists find such skulls they envariably treat them as if they are exemplifiers of juxtaposed 'races', when they may just be a part of natural variations within regions. This sets up the bases for the kind of tortured tautology that Howells engaged in, when he suggested that 'early african crania were not *african*'. When intelligent persons like Howells make disingenuous arguments they are relying on lazy-thinking audiences, who don't recognize contradictions, and won't ask intelligent questions. [/qb][/QUOTE]Thank you! At least someone get what I am saying. Something about is just fishy. It is not that there are only 'TWO' distinct skulls that were found; it is that the 'TWO' skulls shows features that are commonly argued of a "true negro" or "black African" and "not-a-true-negro" or "black African". And of course, the "not-a-true-negro" skull has a possibility of being the ancestors of the Egyptians and modern day North African and the "true Negro" skull have a possiblity of being the ancestors of the rest of Africa. Give me a break. They just can't believe Egyptians were indeed a black African race. They are just being persistent. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yea, but Betty all Paul Sereno mentioned is he wanted to know who these people were, I.e, the ancestors of the Tauregs, Berbers, Egyptians etc... he didn't actually say they were their ancestors. But as I did reply to you, you have to understand to the simple laymen who believes everything they read and here, wouldn't know this Mediterranean implication is actually a Euro-centric ruse, and a way to hide the African influence in Southern Europe and West Asia. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Knowledgeiskey718: [qb] [QUOTE] Basically, they are saying that the skull with the 'aquiline' features were ancestors of the egyptians and middle easterners and the skull with the 'broad' features are ancestors of the west africans. [/QUOTE]Where did get that idea Betty? The skull below is the one with so called surprising Mediterranean features, but note the prognathous characteristics. Many skulls are erroneously classified as Mediterranean because they don't want to admit the skulls found in the Mediterranean in Europe and the near East that they are actually African. So the falsely applied made up Mediterranean skull becomes implicated. Also Notice the Occipital region (A)-Top view of mid-Holocene adult male (G1B11; ~4645 B.C.E.) buried in a recumbent hyperflexed posture. (B)-Bottom view of burial in A showing a mud turtle carapace (Pelusios adansonii) in contact with the ventral aspect of the pelvic girdle. [b](C)-Skull from burial in A and B showing high calvarium, narrow zygomatic width and more prognathous face.[/b] --Paul C. Sereno [IMG]http://www.plosone.org/journals/plosone/article/fetchObject.action?uri=info%3Adoi%2F10.1371%2Fjournal.pone.0002995.g005&representation=PNG_M[/IMG] The occipital bone, a saucer-shaped membrane bone situated at the back and lower part of the cranium, is trapezoid in shape and curved on itself. It is pierced by a large oval aperture, the foramen magnum, through which the cranial cavity communicates with the vertebral canal. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/27/Gray194.png[/IMG] The male cranium below is from Wadi al-Halfa on the Sudan-Egypt border. Dating from the Mesolithic-Holocene period, it is typical of crania in Sudan and surrounding regions from that time frame. [IMG]http://www.geocities.com/pinatubo.geo/halfa.jpg[/IMG] Queen Ahmes-Nefertary [IMG]http://www.geocities.com/pinatubo.geo/nefert.jpg[/IMG] The Elder Lady(First identified as Queen Tiye) possesses an occipital bun comparable to Mesolithic Nubians. [IMG]http://www.geocities.com/pinatubo.geo/elder.jpg[/IMG] Thutmose II displays the globular cranium common among more recent Nubians. [IMG]http://www.geocities.com/pinatubo.geo/thutii.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.geocities.com/pinatubo.geo/haratin.gif[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.geocities.com/pinatubo.geo/haratin2.gif[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE][/QB][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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