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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Doug M: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by ARROW99: [qb] Most of us accept the idea that man spread out of Africa to thge rest of the world. The problem is that the argument rasol and others want to make here is beside the point. What they are trying to do is imply that Africa is the germ of the modern world. Thats the MOTIVE for their argument and where they end up at the end of the day. They skip over tens of thousands of years like it was a generation. The hard xold reality is that nothing positive ever came out of Africa. If African civilization as we know it made any meaningful contribution to the world how did it miss totally Africa generally? Fact is classical Greeks are not black africans, they are europeans. Every single Greek scholar bar none states that their culture was home grown. To attach any sort of African tag on an area of Greece is nutty stuff that will never be accepted by serious scholars. It would be tragic if it were not so comical. We have people on this board who are critical of Dr Hawass because he does not support their narrow, racist, bigoted views even though he has a PHD and they lack even a BA. Really, its the argument of losers. People who feel that they are not a part of the modern world and see themselves as victims. "Nothing is my fault, its the fault of the evil, colonialist Europeans." Since I have no place in the system I will simply attack it. The problem is the system doess not care. If the eurocentrists are really as bad as they are presented here why should they listen now? [/qb][/QUOTE]The fact is you are talking nonsense. Nobody said that Greeks were black Africans. What we said was that both the cultures of Crete and Hellenic Greece were influenced by black Africans and had a segment of the population descended from black African migrants. Hellenic Greece in particular was heavily influenced by Egypt in terms of Architecture, religion and other ways. YOU on the other hand keep clinging to this notion of racial purity for ancient Greeks as if it is an absolute truth that is above all others. No group is PURE, especially not Europeans. What is true is that Europeans have created a MYTH of racial purity and superiority that they have FORCED down the throats of everyone else during the last 2000 years. Black Africans and blacks elsewhere on the planet have made signifigant contributions to human history, since MOST human history took place OUTSIDE of Europe and among the aboriginal populations of Africa and Asia, many of whom WERE black. It is Europe and their desire to reign supreme as the UNIVERSAL symbol of human intelligence who has tried to ERASE all traces of BLACKS in world history, in order to maintain a myth of RACIAL superiority among whites. Then when someone SPEAKS UP and tells the truth, some want to act shocked as if they are IGNORANT of the racist history of Europe and European peoples. Please..... get a life and stop trying to live as a child in a grown man's world. Grown men accept the reality that ALL humans are imperfect and NO ONE has the right to claim that they are GOD'S gift to mankind. Only CHILDREN scream and holler and try and keep all the attention and praise for being something THEY ARE NOT. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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