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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Explorer: [QB] In which case, I might as well repost this here. All the better, as the distorted screen size of the other thread was sort of getting in the way. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Chimu: Mark Shriver, Rick Kittle’s partner in that study agreed with Frank and had this to say. [QUOTE] Frank has some good points. Clearly more work needs to be done on the variation within continents in particular Africa. We do have one recent paper that shines some light on these questions (McEvoy, Beleza & Shriver, 2006). Note that we did not find many genes with signatures of natural selection on the West African branch and thus no clear indication that the West Africans have gotten darker [i]since[/i] their separation from the East Asians and Europeans. This fact, although interesting in and of it's own, does not address the issue of the lighter skinned African populations. Good questions, clearly, [b]But There Is Not Data Yet To Even Let Us Speculate Intelligently.[/b][/QUOTE]He clearly states that there is not enough data to speculate intelligently. They only know that from there research, there is no clear indication West Africans haven’t gotten darker [i]since[/i] the migration out of Africa (a claim contradicted by Jablonski who says there was further skin color selection), but this still does not address the populations that are lighter within Africa, and he clearly states that. And again, for reasons that I have posted before, I don’t fully agree with Jablonski that darker skinned people like Dinka had less to go in terms of skin color evolution than the Bisa Sandawe did, or the San.[/QUOTE]Hot air. Of course, dark skin as the original state of modern humanity has been comfirmed. Norton, Kittles et al: [i]In general, the [b]derived allele[/b] (associated with lighter pigmentation) is most common in [b]Europeans and East Asians[/b], and the [b]**ancestral allele**[/b] predominates in [b]**sub-Saharan Africa** and **Island Melanesia.**[/b][/i] The above of course supports Jablonski's common sensical point about dark skin being the natural state at the equatorial regions. It betrays all logic for "white" skin to be the natural response to the solar environment of this region, and this is where humanity emerged, as buttressed time and again by molecular genetics and skeletal remains, including cranio-metry. The fact that skeletal remains of the Upper Paleolithic display nothing that's suggestive of 'leucodermic' individuals, but rather approximate tropical groups like Australo-Melanesians and Africans than Europeans, should be a sure sign that a 'leucodermic' state of humanity is nothing but a flight of fantasy for those who entertain it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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