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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Grumman: [QB] [b]The Explorer[/b] asks: [b]''Where is the "middle" of the African continent; and how was it arrived at?''[/b] A cartographer will take into consideration the widest points east and west and do the calculations accordingly to arrive at the center. As noted above latitude and longitude represent scientific measures and can locate any place on earth as having a middle. It doesn't matter that 0 degrees north and south, east and west are dertemined from that position and was decided on in the late 1800s I believe. What does matter is a circle comprises 360 degrees but actually isn't perfectly spherical, it has some bulge at the equator, but even that is taken into consideration when doing measurements on the earth. Since a circle is 360 degrees then a starting point can be shifted anywhere from the above mentioned 0 degrees north and south east and west to accomodate land masses and determining a middle position. At this point you will note the southern portion of Africa will not fall into the precise upper portion middle and there is where measurements will have to be decided arbitrarily; the same goes for all other land masses. And I don't have a clue what a cartographer will say in defining the larger upper portion of Africa as it relates to the smaller southern part other than to say it falls into the eastern boundaries of the 20 degree east longitude. Clearly Africa is no square box so that will be taken into consideration when it is said the upper portion of Africa falls into the middle position of 20 or so degrees Longitude (not latuitude). You will also take note that I have mentioned no scientists in my post because it isn't necessary to do that when the facts will show [i]as per cardinal locations[/i] that a middle can be found anywhere on this planet. [b]''At the very least, i.e. when putting the question of geographical precision aside, if regions are to be typified by latitudinal/longitudinal directional indicators like "north, south, east and west", then there should be consistency in grouping regions that occupy the same general latitudes and longitudes respectively, with a single standard respective to the said parameters -- which in this case, either are geographical in nature; likewise should be the case, when the "Sahara" [which for some "odd" reason, became THE main geographical marker/divisor in "Western" discourse, pertaining to African affairs] is applied as a [geographical] dichotomous tool -- for instance, one can't say that say, Nigeria, is "sub-Saharan" and that Ethiopia isn't. That amounts to applying a double standard using a singular parameter -- "the supposed location vis-a-vis the Sahara" as the basis of classification.''[/b] None of that is my argument. That is political as already hinted at earlier. That said I do understand what you are saying. And I agree politics can be a disconcerting business. [b]Argyle 104[/b] says: [b]''It is interesting to see how no one has still not either: Listed the countries that are in these supposed regions or Listed the boundaries for these areas using just 4 countries in each area that is thought of making up the boundaries for those areas''[/b] Argyle, you're talking politics, I'm not. See my comments. You will have to search elsewhere for that. I already laid out for you what areas the countries you gave me fall into from a latitude and longitude perspective. I have no interest in politics in this matter. Argyle attributes this post to me. [b]''See East West North South and Central aren't agreed-upon regions with discrete boundaries of discrete areas and perimeters.''[/b] ...actually it was MaximallyAbstract_faith's post so maybe he will answer your response below, for you. [b]''So basically you are saying that when people bandy about these so called regional names, they are based upon principly their personal fantasies.'[/b] [b]''Also of quick note, why has no one noticed that you never hear about: "north europe" "south europe" "east europe" "west europe" instead you hear: "northern europe" "southern europe" "eastern europe" "western europe"[/b] I see nothing to argue about here. It seems to me it's a general location that people describe. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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