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[QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [QB] Good looking Sundjata. African philosophy is indeed deep. I first learned of ntu from the saxophonist Gary Bartz and his then group the Ntu Troupe on the stellar [i]Harlem Bush Music[/i] albums [i]Taifa[/i] and [i]Uhuru[/i] perhaps best summed in the track [URL=http://www.imeem.com/iamdz/music/CRfNY8CI/gary-bartz-ntu-troop-celestial-blues/][b]Celestial Blues[/b] (please listen)[/URL] At the time I used [b]Mbiti[/b]'s [i]African Philosophy[/i] to further understand the meaning of [i]ntu[/i] and always have wondered at the dumbed down over simplistic definition almost always given for [i]ntu[/i]. Of course we have [b]Kagemi[/b] to thank for exposing us to [i]ntu[/i]'s true meaning and the powerful philosophy concentrated in that litte three letter word. It may be Senghor who has the most interesting comments on Kagemi's breakdown of [i]ntu[/i]. More must hear music from Bartz's NTU Troop [URL=http://www.imeem.com/groups/4LO0KIoR/music/vwWiabLU/gary-bartz-ntu-troop-rise/][b]Rise[/b].[/URL] Then for all of us who know we are black, whether blue-black or nally-yally or anywhere in between and not ashamed to admit we are black regardles of continental origin or of any island in the seas, our message to others on where we take stand on our self direction [URL=http://www.imeem.com/jazzmusic3/music/5YHQtAwW/gary-bartz-uhuru-sasa/]Uhuru Sasa[/URL] (lyrics begin 1:07 into the piece). [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [qb] Was just reading about this: [QUOTE][i]NTU is the universal force as such, which, however, never occurs apart from its manifestations: Muntu, Kintu, Hantu and Kuntu. NTU is Being itself, the cosmic universal force, which only modern, rationalizing thought can abstract from its manifestations. NTU is that force in which Being and beings coalesce. NTU is-so we may say by way of suggestion that Something which Breton probably had in mind when he wrote: 'Everything leads us to believe that there exists a central point of thought at which living and dead, real and imaginary, past and future, communicable and incommunicable, high and low, are no longer conceived of as contradictory.' NTU is that 'point from which creation flows' that Klee was seeking: 'I am seeking a far off point from which creation flows, where I suspect there is a formula for man,beast, plant, earth, fire, water, air and all circling forces at once.' But in NTU Breton's contradictions have never existed, nor is it something 'far away'. If we said that NTU was a force manifesting itself in man, beast, thing, place, time, beauty, ugliness, laughter, tears, and so on, this statement would be false, for it would imply that NTU was something independent beyond all these things. NTU is what Muntu, Kintu, Hantu and Kuntu all equally are. Force and matter are not being united in this conception; on the contrary, they have never been apart. NTU expresses, not the effect of these forces, but their being[/i].[/QUOTE]In other words, alTakuri is pretty much correct. It seems to be an allusion to all things manifest, all things subject to this unifying force (which merely includes human beings).. The concept is pretty deep. :) More here: http://www.ntuplc.org/NTUPublications/MuntuNTUPhilosophy.pdf [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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