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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fawal: [QB] [QUOTE]Fawal, IQ tests measure IQ and are mainly determined by the environment. [/QUOTE]This is completely false. IQ fundamentalists argue that it is almost entirely genetic, while egalitarian, far-left marxists agrue that it is entirely due to the environment. Reasonable evolutionary psychologists on the other hand argue that it is due to an interplay between genes and the environment. The debate revolves around to what extent IQ is genetic. [QUOTE]If IQ is such a big indicator of innate cognitive ability then please explain why AAs score higher than Indians(IQ 81), Iraq(83), Iran(84), Mexico(83), and most of South East Asia. The scores that are attributed to Africa are mainly bogus because the assigned IQ of 70 is borderline retarded in the West. This means that the individual with an IQ of 70 could not lead an independent life, drive a taxi, use a cell phone, give correct change, go to the market without and escort, etc. Africans do all of those things easily. So IQ tests on that basis are just bunk--once you transfer them across cultures. [/QUOTE]Yes I agree with you. Steven Pinker is the Johnstone Professor of Psychology at Harvard University. In his most recent book "The Blank Slate: The Denial of Human Nature," he notes that IQ tests, though precise in that they statistically predict life outcomes like school and job performance, psychiatric diagnoses and marital stability, are problematic when it comes to measuring across different populations. He notes that in order to get a test that "statistically predicts life outcomes" for people in a culture with no school, job performance, or Western notions of marital stability, you would have to completely rewrite the test to the point where it is not comparable with the one used on subjects from Western populations. This however, really doesn't do much to explain why it is that blacks raised in a Western environment, consistently rank the lowest in terms of academic achievement. [QUOTE]James Flynn's recent text "What is Intelligence" shows that IQ tests are truly determined by enviroenmental factors. Get his book and try to read it. [/QUOTE]You strike me as someone who has obviously never read any of the arguments that oppose your world view. First of all, I will repeat again: No contemporary psychologist (or evolutionary biologist for that matter) maintains that IQ is entirely environmental, to quote the psychologist Eric Turkheimer, "The nature-nurture debate is over. All human behavioral traits are heritable." And secondly, I would recommend that you read and internalize these articles [URL=http://www.cato-unbound.org/2007/11/08/linda-s-gottfredson/shattering-logic-to-explain-the-flynn-effect/]here[/URL] and [URL=http://www.cato-unbound.org/2007/11/26/linda-s-gottfredson/flynn-ceci-and-turkheimer-on-race-and-intelligence-opening-moves/]here[/URL] in which Linda Gottfredson quite effectively deconstructs Flynn's hypothesis. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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