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[QUOTE]Originally posted by fawal: [QB] [QUOTE]And btw, these were for the most part copied and pasted from the exact posts i linked to (it wouldn't have been necissary to read the entire thread as you kept implying. [/QUOTE]If this is somehow meant to imply that I purposefully skipped over that citation, I didn't. If you look at the order in which I addressed your quotes you will see that I addressed them in order relevance, not in the order to which you stated them. I simply missed that citation accidentally. :rolleyes: That study that you posted is from the paper [URL=http://www.allacademic.com/meta/p_mla_apa_research_citation/1/0/3/2/3/p103233_index.html]The Socioeconomic Attainments of Second-Generation African Americans. [/URL] If you read that entire paper [b]IN CONTEXT[/b] you will realize two things: 1) The study deals with second generation African Americans, i.e. the children of immigrants and not blacks who have lived here since the founding of this country. 2) The study is discussing wages and how higher educated african americans are paid more then those that do not have a higher education. They found that those with higher degrees don't really have a disadvantage when compared with whites or hispanics. In other words, the excuse that so many of you love to use about "the white man holding you down," is moot. [QUOTE]Economically. Not only that, but alot of the black middle class has been there for barely a generation if that and could very well retain cultural ties. [/QUOTE]Point taken as far as white americans are concerned, however I completely disagree with this assessment when applied to asian americans. Most Asians who first immigrated to the US were in a similar or worse condition as american blacks economically speaking. The prosperity that you see amongst many of them today is simply due to the fact that many of them excelled. [QUOTE] [b]The Flynn affect is very real[/b] and in my observation we (black Americans) tend to culturally resemble Southerners. [/QUOTE]If you choose to cling to that notion religiously then by all means be my guest. In contemporary differential psychology, the Flynn Effect is still hotly debated territory; and I have already cited several studies that put Flynn's hypothesis in limbo. Furthermore there really isn't any use in debating a religious fanatic, because the true believer will never be convinced regardless of how much evidence you give them. :o [QUOTE]But maybe there are genetic causes for Southern, black and earlier IQ test takers as well as psuedo-scientific "fastly evolving" genes that explain the Flynn affect more properly than shifts between cultural mediums. [/QUOTE]You have not given me any studies validating the assertion that early Northern Blacks, scored higher than Southern Whites. You quoted a very old study by Horace Mann Bond and I asked you to provide me with the entire peer reviewed study so that I may access it. Notice that unlike yourself, whenever I quote a study, I always cross-reference so that you all may validate them. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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