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Derkyperky
Member # 16230
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Why are people on this Afrocentric forum calling Africa "the cradle of civilization"?

Are you negroes dumb or what? Don't you know the title given to "Mesopotamia?"

A lot of stuff built in Africa (outside of Egypt) was introduced to them from the Arabs and Europeans.

Get off your high horse.
 
Derkyperky
Member # 16230
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cradle_of_civilization
 
TheTruthHurts
Member # 17194
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lol
 
TheTruthHurts
Member # 17194
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Do you know that Africa people are older then Arabs and European's(There were no Europeans back then so )and your using Wikipedia to prove your point lol...
 
Brada-Anansi
Member # 16371
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Dirky
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A lot of stuff built in Africa (outside of Egypt) was introduced to them from the Arabs and Europeans.

The key words are alot of stuff the question is when and where what era are you talking about.

and Kemet is not separated from the rest of the Nile valley and indeed the Rest of Africa...now I want you to prove to this board that civilization was older in so called Mesopotamia and as such was prior to the founding of Ta-seti..
 
Mike111
Member # 9361
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The cradle of civilization
from Wiki

The cradle of civilization is any of the possible locations for the emergence of civilization. It is usually applied to the Ancient Near Eastern Chalcolithic (Ubaid period, Naqada culture), especially in the Fertile Crescent (Levant and Mesopotamia), but also extended to sites in Anatolia and the Persian Plateau, besides other Asian cultures situated along large river valleys, notably the Indus River in South Asia and the Yellow River in China.

White lies about Ancient History makes Black Kids ignorant.

But it also makes White kids Stupid. Especially Dumb-ass White kids who write articles for Wiki, but don't know the difference between the Ancient Near Eastern Chalcolithic Ubaid which was in Sumer (Iraq) and the Chalcolithic (Naqada culture) which was in Egypt Africa.

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Derkyperky - Do you notice anything that they ALL have in COMMON???

Ya, Asshole - They're ALL AFRICANS!!!!

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Egypt

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Sumer

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Anatolia

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Persian Plateau (Elam)

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Indus River

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The Yellow River in China


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Brada-Anansi
Member # 16371
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ANCIENT KERMA

Archaeologists in Sudan are unearthing one of the world’s oldest civilisations – an ancient kingdom which began to fourish 5,000 years ago, hundreds of miles to the south of ancient Egypt.
Excavations – directed by Swiss archaeologists, Professor Charles Bonnet and Dr. Matthieu Honegger – have been revealing a royal palace, temples, extraordinary tombs and a massive ancient city on the banks of the Nile in Northern Sudan. Academics have been speculating over whether this long-lost civilisation may have been the precursor of the famous biblical Kingdom of Kush, which was alluded to in the Book of Genesis.

As a direct result of these and other excavations, Sudan is emerging as one of the most significant archaeological regions in the world. Due to the country’s superbly preserved archaeology, it has yielded evidence of early cattle domestication that pre-dates any in Egypt’s Nile Valley. What’s more, the earliest Sudanese civilisation – known as Ta-Sety (“the Land of the Archers’ Bow”) to the ancient Egyptians and Kerma to modern archaeologists – is the most ancient African urban culture outside the Land of the Pharaohs. It flourished as a totally independent political entity for at least 15 centuries – until finally, around 1500 B.C., it was conquered by the Pharaohs of Egypt

wysinger.homestead.com/qustul.html
For tne full write up go here^

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ROYAL TOMB
Drawing of one of the largest of the kings' tombs at Kerma, dating to about 1600 BCE It was a man-made mound, 90 m in diameter, with a small brick-built chamber in the center in which the king was buried. Running through it was a corridor where all the king's servants were found. They probably took poison, lay down, died, and were buried with their master.
QUSTUL..TA-SETI
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Nubian Monarchy Called Oldest*

By Boyce Renseberger

(From page 1)

Evidence of the oldest recognizable monarchy in human history, preceding the rise of the earliest Egyptian kings by several generations, has been discovered in artifacts from ancient Nubia in Africa.

Until now it had been assumed that at that time the ancient Nubian culture, which existed in what is now northern Sudan and southern Egypt, had not advanced beyond a collection of scattered tribal clans and chiefdoms.

The existence of rule by kings indicates a more advanced form of political organization in which many chiefdoms are united under a more powerful and wealthier ruler.

The discovery is expected to stimulate a new appraisal of the origins of civilization in Africa, raising the question of to what extent later Egyptian culture may have derived its advanced politicat structure from the Nubians. The various symbols of Nubian royalty that have been found are the same as those associated, in later times, with Egyptian kings.

The new findings suggest that the ancient Nubians may have reached this stage of political development as long ago as 3300 B.C., several generations before the earliest documented Egyptian king.

The discovery is based on study of artifacts from ancient tombs excavated 15 years ago in an international effort.

Notice the palace facade
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such as this^
 
Brada-Anansi
Member # 16371
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Com on Jerky..put-out for once in your miserable life...give us some thing than just trollin..surprize us.
 
Derkyperky
Member # 16230
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What palace is that? It looks nice.
 
Brada-Anansi
Member # 16371
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jerky
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What palace is that? It looks nice.
scroll up to the Nubia Monarchy.. look at the end of the right hand corner of the incence bowl that is a clear represantion of a palace facade with columes,like the one below with the false entrance..found in kemet at a later date..that is of a tomb.
 
TheTruthHurts
Member # 17194
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So that would be the Kingdom of Kush right?
 
Doug M
Member # 7650
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Brada that image is not from Sudan it is from the sixth dynasty in Egypt. It is the false door of Inti from the burial complex at Abusir:

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http://egyptologie.ff.cuni.cz/?req=doc:pribehkara&lang=en

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A team of Czech archaeologists working in Abu Sir, an ancient necropolis southwest of Cairo, has found evidence that the world's oldest documented song was a love song.

In the 4,300-year-old tomb of Inti, a nobleman and judge, archaeologists found hieroglyphs on the tomb wall surrounded by images of singers and musicians playing the harp.



Egyptian harpist and dancers, pictured in a tomb painting from a much later date (approximately 1,000 years later) than the inscription found at Abu Sir. It is likely that the instruments and dancing pictured here were similar to the musical traditions of Egypt's Old Kingdom.


Photograph by Gianni Dagli Orti/Corbis



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"It was probably a song of love, honoring Mentu, Inti's wife," says Miroslav Barta, an archaeologist with the Czech Institute of Egyptology at Charles University in Prague.

The inscription was discovered last fall inscribed on the walls of Inti's tomb, which dates to the end of Egypt's Old Kingdom, near the time when the age of pyramid builders was coming to an end.

First Song

The words of the song have not been completely translated, but seem to consist of a tribute to a woman's beauty, says Bratislav Vachala, director of the Czech Institute of Egyptology.

The inscription, which is just a fragment found in the partially excavated tomb, reads "I love and admire your beauty. I am under it," he says.

Inti lived in the reign of Pepi, a pharaoh of Egypt's Sixth Dynasty.

This time period is interesting, says Vachala, because it came near the end of the Old Kingdom, which was followed by a period of instability. Evidence recovered from Abu Sir and other Old Kingdom sites is suggesting that the age of pyramid building may have come to close even before the instability began.

The tomb of Inti has nothing to do with the pyramids, however. It is a mastaba tomb, typical of a tomb for nobility of the time. It consists of a one-story stone structure above ground and chambers dug below ground. Pyramids were built only for pharaohs and were constucted over many decades.

Role of Music

Music was an important aspect of life to ancient Egyptians, says Terry Wilford, associate curator of the Kelsey Museum of Archaeology at the University of Michigan.

"Music was a part of daily life, " says Wilford. "It was used primarily for worship, and in work situations, by laborers in the field. Music was also played at parties and festivals."

While music lyrics at Abu Sir date to 2,300 B.C., musical notation—which tells an artist how to play a particular song—has been discovered dating to a later time, during the time of the Roman occupation of Egypt, he says.

Although the ancient melodies and rhythms are lost, "some of the music may have sounded like modern Middle Eastern music, with its nasal-sounding flute, and may have been used in a similar context."

Abu Sir: A Trove of Tombs

Already Vachala's team has discovered the tomb of Inti's father at Abu Sir, and the archaeologist suspects they may find more members of the genealogical line of judges when they return next autumn for a new digging season.

Though Inti's tomb had been robbed in antiquity, inscriptions on his limestone sarcophagus and the tomb walls led archaeologists to identify him and his two sons. Some funerary objects, including alabaster bases, were also recovered from the tomb.

Vachala plans to publish a complete report of last fall's digging season later this year. He will return to Egypt next fall to continue excavating the tomb of Inti and other mastaba tombs at Abu Sir.

From: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2001/02/0213_1stlovesong.html

Inti:
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Excavators with the false door partially buried:
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Inti's dog and a dwarf:
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http://egyptologie.ff.cuni.cz/?req=doc:fotogalerie&lang=en&
 
Brada-Anansi
Member # 16371
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I know that Doug.M that's why I wrote below
to show priority..I should have elaborate about the tomb a little more,but you hook it up quite nicely.
Anansi
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palace facade with columes,like the one below with the false entrance..found in kemet at a later date..that is of a tomb

 
Derkyperky
Member # 16230
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quote:
Originally posted by Mike111:
The cradle of civilization
from Wiki

The cradle of civilization is any of the possible locations for the emergence of civilization. It is usually applied to the Ancient Near Eastern Chalcolithic (Ubaid period, Naqada culture), especially in the Fertile Crescent (Levant and Mesopotamia), but also extended to sites in Anatolia and the Persian Plateau, besides other Asian cultures situated along large river valleys, notably the Indus River in South Asia and the Yellow River in China.

White lies about Ancient History makes Black Kids ignorant.

But it also makes White kids Stupid. Especially Dumb-ass White kids who write articles for Wiki, but don't know the difference between the Ancient Near Eastern Chalcolithic Ubaid which was in Sumer (Iraq) and the Chalcolithic (Naqada culture) which was in Egypt Africa.

.


Derkyperky - Do you notice anything that they ALL have in COMMON???

Ya, Asshole - They're ALL AFRICANS!!!!

.

Egypt

 -


Sumer

 -


Anatolia

 -


Persian Plateau (Elam)

 -


Indus River

 -


The Yellow River in China


 -


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[Embarrassed] You blackies are hilariously funny you expect me to believe you founded every single culture and civilization on this earth yet all one has to do is look at Africa to see the true definition of failure. You are a desperate dumb black boy seeking an identity. Take you crap right back to your mudhut in congo!
 
Mike111
Member # 9361
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Derkyperky quote: "you expect me to believe you founded every single culture and civilization on this earth".


Yes, that is it exactly.

The materials that prove it, were not uncovered and disseminated by Black scientist, it was uncovered and disseminated by WHITE scientist.

Does the truth hurt your little Albino mind?
 



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