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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Avee: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [qb] Avee said [/QUOTE]Like I knew all along. There is no way somalis and ethiopians could be a pure African people. To look the way somalis to look, with sharp cacausoid feature a male non-Africa has to be the father. If you look at African Americans who are fathered by white male they tend to have sharp cacausoid features as well. These people below are mixed race.Even there culture is very middle eastern. I personally do not believe these people share PN2 with west Africans." [IMG]http://i583.photobucket.com/albums/ss279/hotxxxxx/somali/Abdullahiyusuf10.jpg[/IMG] But, on the contrary the features of this Somali man except for his hair are typical of early and prehistorical east Africans. The culture of Middle Easterners was first influenced by early East Africans known as Arabs. And the entire region of the Sahel stretching to West Africa has of course been influenced by contact with the Middle East. The Somalis get their non-African hair mainly from recent Middle Eastern and Yemeni contact over the past 3 centuries. Straight hair, however, has little to do with the peoples like early Yemenites and mostly "jet black" Qureish of Mecca whom the Jabarti's claim descent from nor other Khadar or near black tribes predominant in Arabia until the 15th century. The narrow elongated facial features of the Fulani, Danakil, Samburu, Somali, etc. have little to do with non-African influence and are found in Elmenteitan skeletons dating back before the historic era and are related to evolution in the desedrt like areas. Their are very few Africans in the Sahel that are purely African and that is because they originally occupied the neolithci Sahara and north Africa which has had much contact through slavery and settlement with non African peoples. most of these do not have Somali features that includes the Tuareg, Hausa, Teda, Tibbu and even many of the Mande speaking tribes. Peoples like the Somali and Tuareg get their less than woolly hair mainly from people like the Iraqis Syrians and Turks who have settled up until late times in the area. Their has been recent influence from Iraq in particular in the last few centuries. [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/10ddz5f.jpg[/IMG] El Moran (warrior) of the Samburu His "sharp" features have little to do with being mixed with being "Caucasoid" as ancient skeletal evidence of Kenyans has proven. You will in fact rarely see a European with features as "sharp" or refined as many east Africans. Also, the populations of Arabia were mainly near black and kinky haired people up until several centuries ago. Quote from the 14th century - “'Red', in the speech of the people from the Hijaz, means fair-complexioned and this color is rare amongst the Arabs. This is the meaning of the saying, ‘…a red man as if he is one of the slaves’. The speaker meant that his color is like that of the slaves who were captured from the Christians of Syria, Rome and Persia.” From Al Dhahabi of Damascus Syria, in Seyar al Nubala’a, cited on p. 55, The Unknown Arabs, 2002, by Tariq Berry. According to Richmond Palmer's book, Bornu Sahara and Sudan, Arabia was considered part of Bilad es Sudan or "land of the blacks" by peoples of the North in the early Islamic era - by Syrians like Al Umari - and that is why the earliest Islamic "Moors" who invaded north Africa and Spain from Arabia are referred to as black as melted pitch which is the color of many Somali and Arabians. Early Arabians are described by non-Arabs as jet black and dark brownish black (Akhdar). Also the Arabs were mostly kinky haired and not straight haired like the slaves of the Arabs were said to have been. As early Arab linguist Ibn Mandur said, "“kinky hair was the hair Arabs had and that lank hair was the hair of the Persian”. Al Mubarrad born in Basra Iraq said in the 9th century. "The Arabs used to take pride in there darkness and blackness and they had a distaste for a fair skin..." The Qureish came from a tribe known as Kenanah otherwise called Canaanites. They still live in Arabia and Israel/Palestine and in Israel are still black some as black as jet. [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2h5r0w8.jpg[/IMG] El Moran of the Kenya The Samburu/Masai, Oromo and Somali and other east Africans do not get their refined features from being "impure Africans." On the other hand ancient and early Arabs or semites were affiliated with black Africans. Rock art, skeletal and archeological evidence of Arabia and the Syro-ARabian deserts validates this. [IMG]http://i49.tinypic.com/2w1xqf8.jpg[/IMG] Shammar Arabian (a Ru'alla or Ruwalla related tribe) [IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/24lszd0.jpg[/IMG] Henna bearded man of the Somali (bin Sama'al) of the same stock. The early Yemenite Rahawiyyin or Ru'wayn (also the tribe in Somalia called Rahawayn or Rahanwayn ) of Himyar and Rawalla or Ru'alla bin An'aes are both descended from an ancient Arabian chief named "Ra'wani" or "el Ar'awi" in later Arab genealogies better known in the west as the Biblical Reu'el, while the name Shammar is obviously the Shammah or Samma son of Reuel of Esau (el Aes). (Genesis 36:17) Until the 15th century people that looked like Somalis and other east Africans predominated in Arabia and the region of western Yemen extending north toward Ta'if and Mecca was known as Kush, Kenaan, Siyan (Zion) and Yishar-el before these became place names in Syria. (See the Bible Came from Arabia by Kamal Salibi). Al Sama and Sama'al are names of an ancient Arabian clan of the Sabaeans (batn Himyar) mentioned in Islamic Yemenite sources and earlier sources. (Mad'aj p. 91) The names may very well refer to the same tribe and be the root of the name Sam whom the Somaali (or bin Sama'al) and Shammar claim descent from. Ibn Rabbu of 9th c. Cordoba quoted an Madhij of the clan of El Nakha in Yemen and Hadramaut saying one of the 7 rare things in this world was a fair-skinned Arab and that a "fair-skinned" Arab was "inconceivable". Modern dark-skinned descendants of ancient Arabians like the Qarra and Mahra of Oman told colonial observers they originated in Africa. [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/2h2ds7m.jpg[/IMG] Yafi- Yahar members of the Yemen Early Islamic Yemenite sources say they belonged to the Ru'ayn Himyarites of Arabia (see Abd'ul Muhsin Mad'aj. The Yemen in Early Islam, 1988. p.91) [/qb][/QUOTE] Horn Afrik wrote: [b]According to many medieval and modern Islamic historians the Darod clan more than 1/3 of the somalis, desceded from Aqeel ibn Abi Talib, the cousin of the Prophet Mohamed(SCW) [/b] If darod was one of those horner look Arabians above, was prophet Mohammed black too given the darod descend from prophet Muhammeds cousin Aqeel ibn Abi Talib? I highly doubt Mohammed was anything but Arab as we see them today. What role did slavery play in establishing the black population Saudi and Yemen? If horner types were proto- Arabs how did Semetic J become dorminant? Where did J come from? Proto- arabs must have been E1b1b, no? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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