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[QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [QB] No one has discarded anything. I am ranking the relative usefulness of Enoch vs Daniel re the hair of the Ancient of Days. Both use wool and wooly is a decriptor for nappy/kinky hair. If color alone was the objective some other word other than wool would've been used for hair. When uses wool in a simile applied to hair one cannot escape conjuring images of wooly hair to mind. Late 2nd Temple era and Mishnaic era Jews paid little if any attention to Enoch which is why it survived in Christian circles. When examining Judahite views of themselves through their writings late Christian copies or editions of Aramaic texts don't hold a candle. In fact it may be the very reason that your quote from Enoch resembles Greek Revelations more than Hebrew Daniel i.e., because your quote is taken from a Christian book of Enoch not from an Aramaic Enoch used by Qumran or other Jewish sectarians. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Recovering Afrocentrist: [qb] AlTakruri, That is not how an academic approaches the research. Only a religious zealot would be taken by the word "Pseudipigrapha," a term that was not even in existence at the time of the book's writing. Prior to the nicean council the Hanowk writings were widely circulated throughout different religious communities. The only reason it is now considered a false writing is because the church established itself as the central authority with power to decree what writings could or could not be canonized. If you are an academic, you do not discard a piece of literature because some publishing company stamped the word "PSEUDIPIGRAPHA" on the front of the book. [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [qb] Anyone is free to for themselves research the body of literature known as the Pseudopigrapha to see if I erred. Pseudopigrapha means "false authored writings." Enoch (which has several editions ranging form Abyssinian to Slavic) was first put to scroll or parchment in the 2nd century BCE. The oldest part of it only goes back another century. Daniel is a book included in Hebrew canon as part of Ketubiym (the Writings) as set of scriptures following Nebi'iym (the Prophets) and Torah (Five Books of Moses). Daniel was supposedly redacted in the 2nd century BCE. Redaction means it was spun from already existing writings. Thus there were written versions of Daniel older than any of those of Enoch. Both Daniel and Enoch were found at the Qumran depository. Daniel was written in Hebrew except for a verse or two in Aramaic. The few scraps of Enoch at Qumran were in Aramaic. Daniel was for an audience who knew Hebrew and were just beginning to make Aramaic their vernacular. Enoch was for an audience whose everyday language was Aramaic. Knowing when Judahites/Judeans took on Aramaic as their spoken non-sacred language tells us which book precedes the other. It also hints of the relative spiritual value of each book. Anyway both Daniel and pseudo-Enoch both use wool as a simile for the Ancient of Days' hair. Does anyone doubt what is meant by wooly hair or why the Greek word ulitrichous was once the anthropological term descibing the hair of the majority of African peoples and the peoples former anthropologists labeled Negroid and Negrito (such as the bsae population of Susa)? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Recovering Afrocentrist: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: Enoch is Pseudopigraphal and thus post-dates not pre-dates Daniel which is part of Tana"kh.[/QUOTE]This is incorrect. The writings of Hanowk are survived by the scrolls of Qumran (dead sea scrolls) dating as far back as 200 BC. This also holds true for the book of Daniels, which means both sources of manuscript were in use during the 1st century BC in the Qumran community. Chronologically, Hanowk's writing occurred before Daniel. If you challenge that then you have a problem with the entire collection of hebrew writings. Afterall, the oldest surviving torah is what we have transmitted by the Mesoretes around 8 CE. [QUOTE]Enoch never made Judean canon. Daniel made Hebrew scriptural canon.[/QUOTE]It does not invalidate the text. [/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE][/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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