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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob_01: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bettyboo: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob_01: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bettyboo: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob_01: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bettyboo: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bob_01: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Bettyboo: [qb] I don't believe in the scientific beliefs of homo erectus or those other "pre-human-type" creatures theories. I am the only one on ES who believes in the bible, and if I believe the bible to be true then I believe mankind and is multiregional and has been since the beginning. [/qb][/QUOTE]Afronut, the multi-regional hypothesis doesn't suggest that the genus homo didn't originate from Africa. It suggests that the development of anatomically modern humans occurred in parallel. That is, the homo erectus left Africa, as dark skinned individuals, and developed as pale skinned Europeans within Asia. I don't remember the Bible speaking much about European people. The cultural and linguistic history of the Bible is heavily tied to Africa. There were no Indo-Europeans in the region, nor Turks, nor Sino-Tibetans at that time. The medium of Abrahmic religions clearly has an African origin suggesting that the population was such. The Ethiopian language, Amharic, is a semitic language and Somalis are more connected to Hebrews than Germans or Swedes. Technically, the Sinai Peninsula is part of Africa and remember, the text doesn't obey popular geography. The indigenous in this region and much of Southern and West Asia are still dark. The Western experience where light skin or European approximation was a strong requisite for access to immigration is going to severely limit one's understanding. White people have a very limited role in the region. [/qb][/QUOTE]You're spewing emotional afrocentric bullshyt. I don't believe in a "homo-..." anything. Mankind is regional and there has never been pockets of people leaving out of Africa populating the world. [/QUOTE]Oh well. Now shut up and go get yourself a liposuction, overweight white women. It seems like you'll continue to push positions that isn't even substantiated. Provide a damn source. [QUOTE]Branches that spread out through the world came from Asia more likely from Cushitic background,[/QUOTE]I find this ironic considering I don't look African-American at all. That's readily noticeable by post African-Americans I've met. On the other hand, I approximate rather heavily to East Africans or South Arabians. The difference is that I'm probably lot lighter. Please don't kid me. How the hell are those populations not related to Africans elsewhere? I doubt people ever mixed me up whites. I've also seen numerous "West Africans" who look identical to Somalis. The Fula people are one, the Tutsis are another. I don't think anyone is going to suggest these populations aren't black. These groups had more of a role in the Bible than the English or other Northern Europeans, who are just part of that multi-regional language group. [QUOTE] and "Indo-Europeans" are in the bible.[/QUOTE]I should clarify: Northern Europeans. The Iranians are mentioned, during the advent of Ezra and Ezekiel, but what about the Swedes? That population didn't even have a direct role prior to that. Remember the vast majority of Indo-European speakers are people of color. Those in India are just as dark as an African-American in your failed nation. It's obvious that you haven't seen people in much of the Middle East who would as well. I've shown this excerpt and will do it again: [QUOTE]The Egyptians see themselves as essentially sumr, or "dark". However, for all intents and purposes this is a most confusing and contentious term. If an individual is described as asmar, the masculine, or samra, the feminine, they could range in colour from the [b]southern Sudanese ebony or indigo black, a west African chocolate or mahogany black, the various copper and honey-toned Ethiopian and Somali types, to the olive or off-white dark-haired Mediterranean or Middle Eastern-looking type[/b]. [URL=http://weekly.ahram.org.eg/2002/598/li1.htm]Link[/URL] [/QUOTE]Notice how they refer to the off-white dark-haired populations (Greeks are nearly exclusively dark-haired, remember) and it'll describe their origin: [QUOTE] At some theoretical level it is understandable that black conjures up images of the ugly, pathetic and wretched in the Egyptian psyche. Egypt has become progressively whiter over the millennia. [...] Upper class Egyptians, often fairer than their poorer compatriots, invariably look down on lower class Egyptians who tend to be darker in complexion. There is a subtle correlation between lower income and darker complexion. The Egyptian upper classes and elites tend to be noticeably lighter in complexion than their poorer and working class compatriots. "They labour in the sun," is sometimes the cynical explanation. [b]But, a more accurate explanation would be that Egypt has for thousands of years been ruled by foreign, and lighter-skinned, invaders -- [url]Persians, Greeks, Romans[/url], Arabs, [URL=http://Turks,]Turks,[/URL] the French and British.[b] A large section of the pre-revolutionary Egyptian elite could trace their ancestry to Balkan, Caucasian and Turkish roots. Moreover, Napoleon Bonaparte's French expedition was notorious for sowing its seeds in places like the Delta city of Mansoura whose women are reputedly "exceptionally beautiful"; in Egyptian common parlance that means fair-skinned, with light-coloured eyes and hair. Not only are the poorer classes darker in complexion, but they tend to display more "African" cultural traits. [b]Much of the music they enjoy has rhythmic beats that are reminiscent of those of the music of Africa south of the Sahara, with an emphasis on drums and percussion.[/b] The elite tend to favour classical Western-influenced music or Middle Eastern (Turkish and Persian) musical strains dominated by stringed instruments. While the poorer and working classes are more likely to dance spontaneously and with abandon in public, the elites tend to be more restrained. Much clapping and ululation accompanies street parties in low income areas, the elites, in sharp contrast, shun these "baladi" literally "country" traits, suggestive of the African. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE]What you don't find in the bible are nappy-headed broad nose, big lip,large skull, short broad-type Africans. [/QUOTE]You really simplify the people of Africas. Broad noses aren't that uncommon in East Africa or the Middle East. In fact, Dirk posted a picture of an Upper Egypt male who had a broad nose as well. The same goes for full lips which are quite common. Just look at [URL=http://www.japanfocus.org/data/1.%20OSAMA%20BIN%20LADEN.jpg]]Bin Laden[/URL] or Yasser Arafat for that matter. The tend to slightly thinner (vs Jay-Z), but for the nose, it's broad, but protrudes. And don't tell me how an aquiline nose looks like, because I seem them everyday. Besides, Africans in the horn typically have curly hair. I don't get where you're nonsense is even coming from. Hair relaxers are used in these communities quite extensively and I see that being the case all the time. It's obvious that your overweight self doesn't even interact with these populations. [QUOTE]The only Africans that are in the Bible are nations of Ham which are heavily populated in the farthest northeast region of Africa. There is no "Africa" in the bible so I wish you people stop claiming black Asians as African or Afro-Asiatic. [/qb][/QUOTE]The majority of the world's population was concentrated in the "Northeast" regions of Africa. One of the largest West African groups are the Hausa people, who by the way, speak an [b]Afro-Asiatic[/b] language. You really need to start reading more. [/qb][/QUOTE]The so-called Hausa language has no relations to Asia and is strictly African in origin. Labeling it "Afro-Asiatic" will not make it so and will not make it Asian in any sort. They also call Somali Afro-Asiatic and Somali is strictly African in origin with no other language outside Africa matching it. The only language that is similar is the Oromo language which is restricted to Africans. I don't give a damn what the white man label as "afro-asiatic" since it is insulting to identify a language that is 100% strictly African in origin as anything other than African. [/qb][/QUOTE]Who the heck made you the linguist? Besides, I think you're totally forgetting about Amhari which is a semitic language and is only spoken within Africa. The classification system you use is extremely faulty and has no scientific backing. Hell, I don't see how it has biblical backing. For instance, Ancient Egyptian was probably not widely spoken outside the nation. The same goes for Cushitic or "Hamitic" tongues which have very little to do with Asia. Also, Arabic has an African origin. The language was spoken initially by Black Africans and the Semitic language is of African origin. You need to really flesh out your reasoning, because it doesn't make any sense. [/qb][/QUOTE]You're the one not making any damn sense. Everything you wrote is fvcking confusing. Like I said, Hausa is a strict African language and has no relations to Asia. Amharic is actually a language of HAM descendants and not of Shem and it is Asian in origin spoken both in Africa (amongst the few Amahara and other Ethiopians who learned the language as the official language) and in Asia. Don't forget that the Amhara people (true Amhara) migrated to Ethiopia. There never been a migrations of Hausa people from Asia into Africa. [/qb][/QUOTE]What is your evidence fool? The Amhara people never migrated to Asia. The reverse occurred with Africans bringing the Semitic language into Asia. That entire language group, along with its parent Afro-Asiatic languages originated within Africa. Minimal Asiatic exposure amongst those groups mean ****. Besides most would have a very hard time differentiating between an Amhaha, Fula and a Tutsi. Especially if they introduced some overweight, mongrel, Northern European trash like yourself into the equation. These groups would be considered the same "niggers" in virtually every state in America. Back your claims, fool. I don't even see where this all is stated in the Bible. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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