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Afrasian and some Eurasian Median IQs by nation seem to be similar like their shared DNA ancestry. Horn Africans are supposedly the most intelligent of the SSA so possibly socioeconomics and/or lack of nutrition account for their low scores.
Average IQ by nation is from Brown(Lowest) to Violet(Highest)
Shared colors represent shared Autosomal DNA ancestry below. Each one pixel wide line represents one sampled person so stacks of lines are grouped together and divided by population group. K=2-10 clusters. At K=10 the Mozabite cluster appears. The clusters are labeled by the population that contains the greatest amount or widest color bar. Behar et al. 2010.
the lioness Member # 17353
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your intent is racist, you use the same tactics as neo-Nazis, your mind is covered in filth
NonProphet Member # 17745
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness: your intent is racist, you use the same tactics as neo-Nazis, your mind is covered in filth
Don't pull that sociopolitical race card again. Nazis and AfroNazis are my enemies and two sides of the same coin. I'm just presenting some evidence and you're welcome to agree or disagree. If you have any evidence to post for or against do so but don't sling mud, hypocrite.
alTakruri Member # 10195
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This is all useless since Nigerians are at the head of the academic pack in Britain despite your chart.
quote:Originally posted by NonProphet: Afrasian and some Eurasian Median IQs by nation seem to be similar like their shared DNA ancestry. Horn Africans are supposedly the most intelligent of the SSA so possibly socioeconomics and/or lack of nutrition account for their low scores.
Average IQ by nation is from Brown(Lowest) to Violet(Highest)
Shared colors represent shared Autosomal DNA ancestry below. Each one pixel wide line represents one sampled person so stacks of lines are grouped together and divided by population group. K=2-10 clusters. At K=10 the Mozabite cluster appears. The clusters are labeled by the population that contains the greatest amount or widest color bar. Behar et al. 2010.
the lioness Member # 17353
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you are no different than a Nazi. Above you are trying to get people to engage you in a game of what you perceive to be racial superiority.
Gigantic Member # 17311
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Nigerians are pretty good at high math. I went to school with them and noticed that.
NonProphet Member # 17745
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: This is all useless since Nigerians are at the head of the academic pack in Britain despite your chart.
Useless??? These are National Median composite scores so of course individuals will be above and below the Mean. I'm really looking for the reasons why with evidence presented IQ varies by nation or ethnic group. I'm open minded and really curious to know because I had several native born Africans in my graduating class who were good in math and science. Why do they excel in technical areas and AA don't? There is also many different forms of intelligence measured - verbal, spatial, math and logic, physical, musical, artistic, etc. so one can exceed in one area as a genius or many as a Polymath.
The Explorer Member # 14778
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quote:Originally posted by alTakruri:
This is all useless since Nigerians are at the head of the academic pack in Britain despite your chart.
Not to speak of the dubious characterization of the Indian Sub-Continent.
It is also useless to conservative groups like the San "bushmen".
Just call me Jari Member # 14451
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quote:Originally posted by NonProphet:
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri: This is all useless since Nigerians are at the head of the academic pack in Britain despite your chart.
Useless??? These are National Median composite scores so of course individuals will be above and below the Mean. I'm really looking for the reasons why with evidence presented IQ varies by nation or ethnic group. I'm open minded and really curious to know because I had several native born Africans in my graduating class who were good in math and science. Why do they excel in technical areas and AA don't? There is also many different forms of intelligence measured - verbal, spatial, math and logic, physical, musical, artistic, etc. so one can exceed in one area as a genius or many as a Polymath.
You realize there are different forms of Intelligence
Howard Gardner on multiple intelligences - the initial listing Howard Gardner viewed intelligence as 'the capacity to solve problems or to fashion products that are valued in one or more cultural setting' (Gardner & Hatch, 1989). He reviewed the literature using eight criteria or 'signs' of an intelligence:
Potential isolation by brain damage.
The existence of idiots savants, prodigies and other exceptional individuals.
An identifiable core operation or set of operations.
A distinctive development history, along with a definable set of 'end-state' performances.
An evolutionary history and evolutionary plausibility.
Support from experimental psychological tasks.
Support from psychometric findings.
Susceptibility to encoding in a symbol system. (Howard Gardner 1983: 62-69)
Candidates for the title 'an intelligence' had to satisfy a range of these criteria and must include, as a prerequisite, the ability to resolve 'genuine problems or difficulties' (ibid.: 60) within certain cultural settings. Making judgements about this was, however, 'reminiscent more of an artistic judgement than of a scientific assessment' (ibid.: 62).
Howard Gardner initially formulated a list of seven intelligences. His listing was provisional. The first two have been typically valued in schools; the next three are usually associated with the arts; and the final two are what Howard Gardner called 'personal intelligences' (Gardner 1999: 41-43).
Linguistic intelligence involves sensitivity to spoken and written language, the ability to learn languages, and the capacity to use language to accomplish certain goals. This intelligence includes the ability to effectively use language to express oneself rhetorically or poetically; and language as a means to remember information. Writers, poets, lawyers and speakers are among those that Howard Gardner sees as having high linguistic intelligence.
Logical-mathematical intelligence consists of the capacity to analyze problems logically, carry out mathematical operations, and investigate issues scientifically. In Howard Gardner's words, it entails the ability to detect patterns, reason deductively and think logically. This intelligence is most often associated with scientific and mathematical thinking.
Musical intelligence involves skill in the performance, composition, and appreciation of musical patterns. It encompasses the capacity to recognize and compose musical pitches, tones, and rhythms. According to Howard Gardner musical intelligence runs in an almost structural parallel to linguistic intelligence.
Bodily-kinesthetic intelligence entails the potential of using one's whole body or parts of the body to solve problems. It is the ability to use mental abilities to coordinate bodily movements. Howard Gardner sees mental and physical activity as related.
Spatial intelligence involves the potential to recognize and use the patterns of wide space and more confined areas.
Interpersonal intelligence is concerned with the capacity to understand the intentions, motivations and desires of other people. It allows people to work effectively with others. Educators, salespeople, religious and political leaders and counsellors all need a well-developed interpersonal intelligence.
Intrapersonal intelligence entails the capacity to understand oneself, to appreciate one's feelings, fears and motivations. In Howard Gardner's view it involves having an effective working model of ourselves, and to be able to use such information to regulate our lives.
In Frames of Mind Howard Gardner treated the personal intelligences 'as a piece'. Because of their close association in most cultures, they are often linked together. However, he still argues that it makes sense to think of two forms of personal intelligence. Gardner claimed that the seven intelligences rarely operate independently. They are used at the same time and tend to complement each other as people develop skills or solve problems.
In essence Howard Gardner argued that he was making two essential claims about multiple intelligences. That:
The theory is an account of human cognition in its fullness. The intelligences provided 'a new definition of human nature, cognitively speaking' (Gardner 1999: 44). Human beings are organisms who possess a basic set of intelligences.
People have a unique blend of intelligences. Howard Gardner argues that the big challenge facing the deployment of human resources 'is how to best take advantage of the uniqueness conferred on us as a species exhibiting several intelligences' (ibid.: 45).
These intelligences, according to Howard Gardner, are amoral - they can be put to constructive or destructive use.
I realize you may not be an Educator or in Education but Gardner is pretty much revolutionizing how we are gonna teach the next Generation..
Peul Mercenary Member # 6729
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^ No doubt..
NonProphet Member # 17745
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer:
quote:Originally posted by alTakruri:
This is all useless since Nigerians are at the head of the academic pack in Britain despite your chart.
Not to speak of the dubious characterization of the Indian Sub-Continent.
It is also useless to conservative groups like the San "bushmen".
Could you elaborate with some evidence?
There was some published paper about a brain or cranium related genetic mutation that supposedly occurred in prehistoric North Africa or the Near East. Can anyone find a copy online? Just curious if that study has been validated or not and if it may explain IQ differences between groups.
Peul Mercenary Member # 6729
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^ Is this paper on the Internet?
NonProphet Member # 17745
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^ Don't know. I will be most grateful if anyone can find a link.
The Explorer Member # 14778
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quote:Originally posted by NonProphet:
Could you elaborate with some evidence?
Evidence for what: that Indians are not dumber than Europeans by any stretch of the imagination when it comes to academic performance? Or that European criteria for IQ tests has no practical purpose for groups like the San?
NonProphet Member # 17745
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quote:Originally posted by The Explorer:
quote:Originally posted by NonProphet:
Could you elaborate with some evidence?
Evidence for what: that Indians are not dumber than Europeans by any stretch of the imagination when it comes to academic performance? Or that European criteria for IQ tests has no practical purpose for groups like the San?
So how do East Asians excel in the "European criteria for IQ tests?"
You are conflating national averages with individuals. Possibly sampling bias could explain the disparity or 'brain drain' when more intelligent folks move to first world nations.
NonProphet Member # 17745
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There was a published paper recently about a brain related genetic mutation that may have occurred in North Africa or the mideast. Keita mentions it briefly in his talk with Salsassin.
If anyone can post a link to the study this will be appreciated. Just curious if that study has been validated or not and possibly explains IQ differences between some groups who possess the mutation or not.
viola75 Member # 17981
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i bet some eurocentric study will put this so called smart gene brain mutation down to the neanderthal genes in non africans,or some bollocks like that
even though it wont explain why some africans were living the high culture civilization thousands of years before europeans
the war against blacks continue
The Explorer Member # 14778
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quote:Originally posted by NonProphet:
So how do East Asians excel in the "European criteria for IQ tests?"
Good question; consider the following:
You are generalizing East Asians; for instance, have rural East Asians been tested, and have they been compared to the metropolitan counterparts?
The measurement of IQ tests can only make sense, if the same conditions and criteria apply to all groups sampled. Otherwise there is nothing to compare. So, whose criteria do you understand is being used, if not Europeans?
If there are "East Asians" who excel in these IQ tests, don't you think that it would pertain to only individuals who undertake the programs that are also curricular material in Europe? What about folks who live their daily lives by other codes of conduct? Does the "European" criteria trump their time-tested and longstanding ways?
quote: You are conflating national averages with individuals.
Where am I guilty of that, and how do you intend to rectify it with counter material?
osirion Member # 7644
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So how do you explain for Ireland's low IQ score. Isn't that just bizarre. Southern Ireland is in white while Northern Irland is in dark blue?
The Explorer Member # 14778
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Whom are you addressing? If it is to me [being the last poster], I'm not sure how it relates to anything I've said.
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