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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] [b]If his "blunders" were such a great service to them (impoverishing Ghanaians; weakening Africans) why did they not leave him alone? Based on your argument ousting him would be actually doing Ghanaians a favor. Why would the west do that (engineer a coup) if he was no threat to their power? [/b] I said if the imperialists wanted to discredit Nkrumah, his blunders provided plenty of ammunition. As for his threat - sure- his fierce denunciation of colonialism, non aligned stance, praise of the Soviets etc etc made him an enemy in a number of Western capitals. Would you say that all the poverty and chaos that descended on Ghana during Nkrumah's reign is due to the Western imperialists? It's all the fault of the West? Would you say the ordinary Ghanians that suffered under Nkrumah are deluded tools of imperialism? That their suffering didn't really happen? As for Rawlings haven't thought of him much. What would you say about him? Is he a tool of Western imperialism? lamin- [b]In terms of what was needed to move Ghana forward during his time, Nkruhmah had the right ideas concerning education. At the time there was massive educatioanl training going on in Ghana--to the extent that Nigerians who are much more numerous in numbers than Ghanians were always asked "Are you from Ghana"--such was the worry and consternation in the West. It is a fact that Ghana at the time wanted to go the heavy industry route of the Soviets and China, with a strong central government. But the greedy, ignorant new bourgeoisie caste that was springing found a willing partner in the British and the the U.S. So they comnspired to have him overthrown. There was also the usual confounded ethnic thing at play too--as in most African countries. The Soviet model, the Chinese model and even the north Korean model worked for a number of years because it allowed the state to harness all resources for the purpose of industrialisation. Ghana was also pursuing a nuclear energy policy which really alarmed the West. [check the New African archives on this]. Re farming: Nkrumah did not collectivise African [cocoa]farming as was the norm in China and the USSSR. Don't be bamboozeld by Ayitteh's nonsense. Nkruhma's weakness was that unlike Castro or the North Koreans he still had some trust in Westerners. The first Vice Chancellor of the University of Ghana was Conor Cruise O'Brien from Ireland and his confidential secretary was an English woman. And Nkrumah's Pan-Africanism was right on target--but the West's puppets in Africa--the Monrovia group, etc.--were all too willing to do the West's biddings. Just as Wikileaks is doing today: confidential cables between the U.S. and British officials show that they were really very, very concerned of the repercussions of Nkrumah's understanding of their game and his willingness to do something about it. Item: A book Nkrumah wrote titled "Imperialism--the Last Stage of Capitalism" so enraged U.S. President, Lyndon Johnson that he told his staff, "This man must go". [/b] ^^ Lamin: How could it be the right idea in education when the schools kept cranking out hundreds of graduates with little realistic prospect of productive jobs in a crumbling economy made worse by the very policies of Nkrumah? How is this the "right" approach? And are you saying that the heavy industry Soviet model helped Ghana? How so, when Nkrumah did not have the technical personnel to maintain such industry? How so when said industry produced substandard goods and was unable to be maintained? Ghana was much more prosperous than either Korea at the time of its independence. Why would N. Korea's dismal model serve as an example for Ghana? And you keep making all these claims about Aiyeteh but still have produced nothing credible to back them up. 1) You say Aiyeteh calls for a return to "African village economies:" I again ask, where is concrete proof of this? What did he mean by this? Still waiting for you to back up your claims with a concrete example. 2) You now refer to "Aiyeteh's nonsense claims" re Nkrumah collectivised cocoa farming. Did Aiyeteh really claim this or are you putting words in his mouth? Where and when did Aiyeteh claim Nkrumah collectivised cocoa farming like the Soviets and Chinese? 3) Up above you say that Ghana would have benefited from a -quote- "blue-print lines of South Korea in terms of technological development", but you still can't explain what this means. What does that mean? Are you aware that the policies that led to S. Korea's develop- ment were much different from Nkrumah's approach? 4) Later on you switch from S. Korea to N. Korea as a model for development. Which is it? South or North? And how would N. Korea with over half-a- million dead from famine serve as a model for Ghana or any other African country? Please elucidate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Korean_famine 5) If as you say: "The Soviet model, the Chinese model and even the north Korean model worked for a number of years.." -- how does or did this "work" for millions of impoverished Ghanians under Nkrumah's policies? If they "worked" why such bad results? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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