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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mazigh: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [qb]Or like this (props to Zarahan) [IMG]http://www.wildfiregames.com/0ad/album_image.php?pic_id=6759[/IMG] Sallust wrote that the Numidians were Gaetuli very slightly infused with Taurus-Zagros males. He also tells us that the Mauri were Libyans very slightly infused with Taurus-Zagros males. [b]Sallust[/b][i] Iugurtha 17.7-18.12 [/i] But Sallust himself is doubtful that the above is true. We must remember Manilius derives Mauri from the Greek colour term μαῦρος black. Even Frank Snowden wrote that Maurus is [i]"at times obviously the equivalent of Ethiopian."[/i] He shows that in the sense of skin colour by giving a Greek addage -- an Aithiopian black as soot -- where black is a variant of maurus. Everybody knows suit isn't light or tawny. Isidore in Origenes 14.5.10 equates Latin nigurm with Greek μαῦρος Martial 6.39.6 barbs nappy haired Maurus. Juvenal 5.53-54 makes a simile with nigri and Mauri. There's no escaping the fact that the vast majority of authentic Maurs even into the early Islamic era were blacks, a type of black indigenous to the North Africa between the Sahara and the Sea. A thread for the image of "authentic" Moors must reflect that fact in its choices of imaginary art. A Numidian king should be as dark as his cavalrymen and yes we know misegenation set in with Juba but that was the last of the Numidian line of kingship which stretches back ~200 years earlier. [/qb][/QUOTE]Color has a little sense in North africa. I know some relatively blond Berbers, who could look very brown after some sessions under sun (bank). Many of the Rifians are depicted with very brown skin during the frensh-spanish colonization. those Rifians living in Morocco and those living in europe look in many case very different. This because of the sun. So, color is not indicating in this case. Furthermore, it is wrong to say that Moor was an equivalent for ethiopian. Since, the moors are libyans and the libyans were not described as ethiopians. The meaning of the word "Moor" is highly disputed, some claim it is berber, others say it is gree, some say it is phoeician. Even if it means "dark", it would then mean "western" (were the suns undergoes), and became dark. The word Moor is a common name for those Berbers who were not conquered by Rome. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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