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They like to say a lack of prognathism in Ancient Egyptian crania equals "Medit-Kzoids" but a look below at the South African Bantus shows that this trait caries considerably within African populations:
More on Skeletal Analysis and the Race Concept Author(s): John H. Robertson Source: Current Anthropology, Vol. 20, No. 3 (Sep., 1979), pp. 617-619
.Charlie Bass. Member # 10328
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Prognathism is a normal characteristic found in all populations. It does not mean "Negro" any more than orthognathism means "Caucasoid." An aboriginal African skeletal population may be orthognathic without indicating "Hamitic" migrations; Egyptians may be prognathic without implying "Negro" penetration; and a single population may have (should have) both prognathic and orthognathic individuals without being considered a "mixed" population.
More on Skeletal Analysis and the Race Concept Author(s): John H. RobertsonSource: Current Anthropology, Vol. 20, No. 3 (Sep., 1979), pp. 617-619Published by: The University of Chicago Press on behalf of Wenner-Gren Foundation for AnthropologicalResearchStable URL: http://www.jstor.org/stable/2742137 .Accessed: 26/12/2010 09:27
The Explorer Member # 14778
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Nothing that I haven't maintained here myself before. Good find.
zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova Member # 15718
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quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.: They like to say a lack of prognathism in Ancient Egyptian crania equals "Medit-Kzoids" but a look below at the South African Bantus shows that this trait caries considerably within African populations:
More on Skeletal Analysis and the Race Concept Author(s): John H. Robertson Source: Current Anthropology, Vol. 20, No. 3 (Sep., 1979), pp. 617-619
Since only sbout 30% of some Nguni samples show prognathism, using "biodiversity" logic, the Zulu and other Nguni types must therefore be almost 70% "Caucasoid".. lmao...
.Charlie Bass. Member # 10328
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quote:Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova:
quote:Originally posted by .Charlie Bass.: They like to say a lack of prognathism in Ancient Egyptian crania equals "Medit-Kzoids" but a look below at the South African Bantus shows that this trait caries considerably within African populations:
More on Skeletal Analysis and the Race Concept Author(s): John H. Robertson Source: Current Anthropology, Vol. 20, No. 3 (Sep., 1979), pp. 617-619
Since only sbout 30% of some Nguni samples show prognathism, using "biodiversity" logic, the Zulu and other Nguni types must therefore be almost 70% "Caucasoid".. lmao...
Or better yet, the mesognathic Africans must be mulattoes, lol
Djehuti Member # 6698
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^ LMAO
L' Member # 18238
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NVM
cassiterides Member # 18409
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More afrocentrics in denial of their features i see.
Here is a typical negroid -
Note the prognathic skull, which is a feature of apes.
L' Member # 18238
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Apparently you are scientifically illiterate. You are trying to argue a scientific study with selective pictures that have NO bearing on the results in the study.
Explain why South African Bantu are orthognathic as well as mesognathic NOT simply prognathic
Apocalypse Member # 8587
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quote:Note the prognathic skull, which is a feature of apes.
quote:Against this background of disease, movement and pedomorphic reduction of body size (Table 2, 3) one can identify Negroid (Ethiopic or Bushmanoid?) traits of nose and prognathism appearing in Natufian latest hunters (McCown, 1939) and in Anatolian and Macedonian first farmers (Angel, 1972), probably from Nubia (Anderson, 1969) via the unknown predecessors of Badarians (Morant, 1935) and Tasians,.
Djehuti Member # 6698
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^ Yes, speaking of the first farmers of Macedonia, remember this study?
The Skeletons of Lerna Hollow (Argolid, Greece) Al B. Wesolowsky Hesperia, Vol. 42, No. 3. (Jul. - Sep., 1973), pp. 340-351.
"The female of forty-plus years of age from Grave 2 was examined by J. L. Angel who noted what he interpreted as a number of ' negroid ' (not full negro) traits in the face." lo The skull is fairly complete, but not enough so for discriminant function analysis." There is marked maxillary prognathism and the orbits may be described as rectangular, traits frequently used in forensic diagnosis of Negro crania....
But then the study goes on to say...
...Despite the presence of these traits, we must recall that we are quite ignorant of the range of variation in cranial morphology among the Late Roman Corinthians. Consequently, attempts to identify the race of a single skull (one of only three preserved from the Lerna Hollow collection) are on unsure grounds. The features of this skull may, after all, be within the range of variation for the (presumably) Caucasoid population of Corinth at this time.
These scientist acknowledge that traits like prognathism are "negroid" yet when they appear in neolithic Greece, they consider that it might be another "variant" of the Ca-ca-soids. So which is it? LOL
The Explorer Member # 14778
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These drawings may perhaps work as little kids' cartoon which is only good for comedic value, but back in the real world, reality is that no human prognathism comes close to chimp or any ape facial projection.
Prognathism is pan-human trait; the only thing that varies about this trait, is perhaps the type and frequency between populations, and even within populations.
L' Member # 18238
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quote:Originally posted by Apocalypse:
quote:Note the prognathic skull, which is a feature of apes.
quote:Against this background of disease, movement and pedomorphic reduction of body size (Table 2, 3) one can identify Negroid (Ethiopic or Bushmanoid?) traits of nose and prognathism appearing in Natufian latest hunters (McCown, 1939) and in Anatolian and Macedonian first farmers (Angel, 1972), probably from Nubia (Anderson, 1969) via the unknown predecessors of Badarians (Morant, 1935) and Tasians,.
LOL. Recently reinforced by the study of Ricaut (2008). The Nubian remark causes me to think of Battaglia et al., (2008) where E-M78 markers in southern Europe correspond with the early Mesolithic. E-M78 origins are near Lake Nubia
Djehuti Member # 6698
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^ Yes, but remember in National Geographic's Genographic project, they tried to obfuscate this by calling Egypt and even Nubia as "Middle East". LOL
quote:Originally posted by The Explorer:
These drawings may perhaps work as little kids' cartoon which is only good for comedic value, but back in the real world, reality is that no human prognathism comes close to chimp or any ape facial projection.
Prognathism is pan-human trait; the only thing that varies about this trait, is perhaps the type and frequency between populations, and even within populations.
Of course. I LMAO when I first saw Castrated's post of this 18th century racial pseudoscience cacricature!
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