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[QUOTE]Originally posted by alTakruri: [QB] You get the 1st place prize! All African states bordering the Mediterranean, including Egypt, have at some point used inner Africans to support their regimes. See [URL=http://www.egyptsearch.com/forums/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=004728]Morocco's "Gnawa" slave army[/URL] and [URL=http://egyptsearchreloaded.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=hist&action=display&thread=470]REGISTER OF THE SLAVES OF MAWLAY ISMA‘IL [/URL] As for Med African vis-a-vis inner African feelings except for the the bordering in betweeners we just don't have very much in common sensibilities and there is resentment over colour prejudice. Bottom line the northerners for the most part would rather allign themselves with Arabia or Europe so why should we concern ourselves so much with them. This does not apply to the northerners who chose to live with us, respect us, marry ours, and become part of our states. They become absorbed within us over time. Anyway that's my point of view. It does not hold true for all non-"Arabo-Berber" Sahel/Savannah Africans. Lamin may likely have an entirely different outlook. And Ol' Doc's opinion may differ still than myself and Lamin's variant views. My interaction, relation, and relationhips with North Africans is what prompts my views on a personal level. BTW Judar Pasha was a blue eyed Morisco (renegade Spaniard) and the forces he commanded were like himself mostly Europeans in employ of Morocco. Within 3-4 generations they were absorbed. Yes, their claimant descendents will sometimes put on airs, the few of them that they are. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Mike111: [qb] lamin & alTakruri - The two of you having an intimate understanding of the area, perhaps you will enlighten me. I have been wondering at the apparent disinterest shown by Southern Africans, to what happens to Africans in the North. One writer that I recently ran across, attributes lingering feelings of resentment to when the Berber forces of Judar Pasha (who it is said was a Spaniard) sacked the Songhai Empire and enslaved the people - circa 1588. This seem to be borne out by what happened at the founding of the current Alaouite Dynasty of Moulay Ali Cherif in Morocco, circa 1631. Ali Cherif from his picture, is obviously neither Black nor Berber. So then, it comes as no surprise that when he angled for kingship, none of the Berber tribes would support him. So what did Ali Cherif do? He simply recruited an army of over 150,000 men from sub-Saharan Africa and took over. By the time of Ismail Ibn Sharif death (1672–1727), the guard had grown tenfold, the largest in Moroccan history. That seems like payback to me! And it also explains why Gaddafi initially brought in mercenaries from the south to deal with the rebels - and yes, I do believe that they fired on unarmed demonstrators - this sh1t goes way back. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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