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[QUOTE]Originally posted by rahotep101: [QB] @Sundjata If you showed an image of a Roman smiting a gaul, (if there were such images) you would be hard-pressed to spot a difference in phenotype. It's funny how historical evidence gets dismissed as picture spam when it doesn't support your fictitious view of the past. By insisting certain phrases are 'debunked' or defunct you just seem to be denying the obvious, and hiding behind the political correct vagueness of the prevailing scientific establishment. You believe in race when it suits you, i.e. when you want to construct the idea of a single 'African' race. Why are 'Elongated African features' (Hamitic) only found in the parts of Africa that face Eurasia? If it was an indigenous adaptation why isn't it found among Nigerians? I think there's mileage in the Hamitic hypothesis yet. All this is aside from the point of Egyptians looking the same now as they did in Dynastic times, and by their own artwork clearly distinct from negroid nehesu. Images such as that from Horemhab's tomb are stereotypes, of course, even charicatures, but they weren't arrived at arbitrarily. Nubians in Egyptian art were usually shown as bound captives, sometimes awaiting excution, or as enemies in battle being scattered in a disorderly mass, or as tribute paying subjects (rather than gift-bearing royals as you fondly imagine). Egyptianized Nubians like Kemist and Maiherpri were exceptiona. Indeed Egyptians used Nubian mercenaries, sometimes against other Nubians. Later, of course, Nubians used Egyptian mercenaries, again against other Nubians! By the way Egyptians used black Sudanese mercenaries well into medieval times. The European crusaders they came up against recognized the blacks as something different from the Egyptians, for the Egyptians were lumped together with 'Saracens'. The ultimate source of the Egyptian language and religion is also irrelevant to the question of continuity since dynastic times. If Egyptians are indeed of horn African stock, however, you've got to wonder how it can be that no comparably advanced civilization of at least equal antiquity is found in the south. Where are Somalia's pyramids or hieroglyphics? One thing's for sure, Somalis don't descend from actual Ancient Egyptians. Only modern Egyptians can make such a claim. Mike111. I'm touched by the warmth of that sentiment. Not to ignore the evidence of the carvings of soldiers, I've already made the point that there appear to have been different types of Nubians, hamitic/Caucasoid ones and negro ones, both darker than the Egyptians. Sorry to keep calling a spade a spade, but I speak as I find. [URL=http://img685.imageshack.us/i/hambantu.jpg/] [IMG]http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/4565/hambantu.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Uploaded with [URL=http://imageshack.us]ImageShack.us[/URL] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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