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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Just call me Jari: [qb] So Bede wrote in Latin a script developed by Rome. While the Ethiopians wrote in Geez a Script developed by Ethiopians. Everything that Bede did was done by the sacred Empire Ethiopia ten fold. Ethiopian Axum in the 1st century was counted as 4 of the Great Empires with the likes of China and Byzantium. The Tin Isles only got that Title during the 19th Century after exploiting the Americans, Carribean, Africans, Indians, and Indo-Chinese and Chinese alike, and after the development of Steam. It was the so called Arabs that Isolated and Invaded Ethiopia preventing her Growth to further greatness. Yet and still despite Barbarics Stepping their dirty feet on the sacred soil of Ethiopia, she was still able to resist Colonialism, defeated the Italians and even began a process of Modernization. [i]Justice is a product of education.[/i] -H.I.M Hallie Selasse Show Respect boy!! [/qb][/QUOTE]^ Forget that! DaHoisDum101 keeps ignoring that the very alphabet of the Latin language is derived from AFRICANS i.e. Egyptians. He tends to ignore a lot of things including the fact that Africa has produced more civilizations than Europe! [IMG]http://exploringafrica.matrix.msu.edu/images/africa_kingdoms.jpg[/IMG] ^ Africa has had trade relations with China long before the advent of Marco Polo! [i]Indirect contacts between the Northeast African coast and China, mostly based on trade, seem to be documented since at least the 1st century A.D. (Han dynasty). This article focused on the first Chinese, whose presence in Africa is clearly documented. The geographical curiosity of the T'ang dynasty made it possible, that extracts of an 8th century travel report of a Chinese military officer, Du Huan, were documented and preserved. He visited Arabic countries and also Africa. The location of Molin-guo, an African country, seems to be clarified today. South of it lies Laobosa, the first mention of Abyssinia in an ancient Chinese source ; Molin should be located in a dry desert lowland in the Sudan and Eritrea62. This text is thus one of the very few ancient sources contemporary to the late Aksumite kingdom. Briefly, but with significant details, the peoples' customs are described, most of them still identifiable today. What makes the text fragments on Molin important, is, first, that it is the most ancient source which provides evidence of the presence of a Chinese in Africa63. Most other sources only reflect the fact that products from the African Red Sea coast reached China. Second, it is among the very few ancient sources contemporary to the Aksumite kingdom. Third, the Du Huan travel report fragments give an example on the ways used in that time to cross far distances. Probably rather unusual is the fact, that Du Huan reached the mountainous region south of Egypt by land ; how his way back was organised is not known in detail, but we know that he reached Kanton in Southern China by boat - using the sea routes to India, which we know from a few ancient sources. This shows that still in the period of decline, the sea trade from the African coast was not halted. Fourth, the geographical notions mentioned are reflecting information originating evidently in Arabic contacts, which is probably due to the fact that during the decline of the Aksumite kingdom the Red Sea trade was already in the hands of the Arabs. Finally, the brief descriptions of the multitude of religions give us an impression of the coexistence of religions in this period, on which only very few sources exist.[/i] http://cy.revues.org/document33.html Even the kingdom of Kilwa traded with China. [QUOTE][qb]Originally posted by alTakruri: [/qb] _________ [IMG]http://www.hist.umn.edu/hist1012/primarysource/psimages/giraffe.GIF[/IMG]__________________________ [i]Now in the 12th year, in a corner of the Western Seas, in the stagnant waters of a great morass, Truly was produced a qilin (ch'i-lin), whose shape was as high as fifteen feet. With the body of a deer and the tail of an ox, and a fleshy, boneless horn, With luminous spots like a red cloud in a purple mist. Its hoofs do not tread on living beings and in its wanderings it carefully selects its ground. It walks in stately fashion and in its every motion it observes a rhythm, Its harmonious voice sounds like a bell or a musical tube. Gentle is this animal, that has in antiquity been seen but once, The manifestation of its divine spirit rises up to heaven's abode. Ministers and people together vie to be the first to gaze upon the joyous spectacle, a true token of Heaven's aid and a proclamation of Heaven's favour. How glorious is the Sacred Emperor whose literary and military virtues are most excellent, who has succeeded to the Precious Throne and has achieved Perfect Order in imitation of the Ancients.[/i] Painting with Poem by Shen Du (1357-1434) The [b][i]qilin[/i][/b] is a Chinese auspicious mythical animal with giraffe-like features. Zheng He, a Muslim admiral ambassador eunuch, brought a giraffe from the east coast of Africa to the emperor Yongle. From Zheng He's stela: [QUOTE] In the fifteenth year of Yongle (1417): Commanding the fleet we visited the western regions. The country of Hulumosi (Ormuz) presented lions, leopards with gold spots and large western horses. [b]The country of Adan (Aden) presented qilin[/b] of which the native name is culafa (giraffe), as well as the long-horned animal maha (oryx). The country of Mugudushu (Mogadishu) presented huafu lu ("striped" zebras) as well as lions. The country of Bulawa (Brava) presented camels which run one thousand li as well as camel-birds (ostriches).[/QUOTE]J.J.L. Duyvendak, however, maintains that [b]Malindi sent a delegation to Peking with the giraffe[/b]. [QUOTE] . . . . In 1402 an outward-looking emperor named Yong'le (Yung-lo) came to power. Seeking to reassert a Chinese presence on the western seas and to enhance the prestige of his rule and dynasty, he began funding spectacular voyages by Zheng-He. . . . . As Zheng He pressed westward in 1414, he sent part of his fleet north to Bengal, and there the Chinese travelers saw a wondrous creature. . . . . The giraffe the travelers saw in Bengal was already more than 5,000 miles from home. It had been brought there as a gift from the ruler of the prosperous African city-state of Malindi, one of the several trading centers lining the east coast of Africa (Malindi is midway along modern Kenya's coast, three degrees south of the equator). Zheng He's diplomats persuaded the Malindi ambassadors to offer the animal as a gift to the Chinese emperor. They also persuaded the Malindi ambassadors to send home for another giraffe. When Zheng He returned to Beijing, he was able to present the emperor with two of the exotic beasts. A pair of giraffes in Beijing in 1415 was well worth the cost of the expedition. In China they thought the giraffe (despite its having one horn too many) was a ["temple dog"] (ch'i-lin), whose arrival, according to Confucian tradition, meant that a sage of the utmost wisdom and benevolence was in their presence. It was a great gift, therefore, to bring to the ambitious ruler of a young dynasty. The giraffes were presented to the emperor Yong'le by exotic envoys from the kingdom of Malindi, whom the Chinese treated royally. They and the marvelous gift so excited China's curiosity about Africa that Zheng He sent word to the kingdom of Mogadishu (then one of the most powerful trading states in East Africa and now the capitol of modern Somalia) and to other African states, inviting them to send ambassadors to the Ming emperor. The response of the African rulers was overwhelmingly generous, for China and Africa had been distant trading partners from the time of the Han dynasty (206 B.C. to A.D. 220). . . . . The African emissaries to the Ming throne came with fabulous gifts, including objects for which entrepreneurs had long before managed to create a market in the Far East -- tortoise shell, elephant ivory, and rhinoceros-horn medicine. On their many visits they also brought zebras, ostriches, and other exotica. In return, the Ming court sent gold, spices, silk, and other presents. Zheng He was sent with his fleet of great ships on yet another voyage across the Indian Ocean to accompany some of the foreign emissaries home. This escort was the first of several imperially supported trips to Africa. According to official records, they went to Mogadishu, Brava, and perhaps Malindi; . . . . [b]Samuel M. Wilson[/b] [i]The Emperor's Giraffe[/i] Natural History (Vol. 101, No. 12, December 1992) [/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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