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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Kalonji: [QB] I mentioned the direction in which to go first, but we can also do it the other way around, fine by me. You're right about the brackets thing. Your insertion still falls flat though, until you provide a quote where he says Naqadan II specimens differ significantly from earlier samples, and what cemetery his samples come from. What I understand from Derry, is that his ''Dynastic race'' is to be taken literal, as in: ''the people from the dynastic era onwards''. Using three variables, he contrasts [i]predynastic[/i] remains with[i] dynastic[/i] remains, not [i]Predynastic[/i] with [i]Predynastic[/i], and his meassurements show that a break occurs in the early dynastic, [b]not[/b] in predynastic times. [QUOTE][i]It should be said here that this paper deals only with the earliest cemeteries of [b]both Predynastic and Early Dynastic date.[/b] As time went on, the mixture [b]of the two races[/b] obscured the outstanding differences so clearly demonstrated in the [b]earlier graves[/b].[/i] -Derry[/QUOTE] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Rahotep: Derry was indeed a proponent of the idea of a [b]foreign elite[/b] arriving at that time. [b]His anthropological evidence[/b] only supported the archeological evidence that [b]Petrie and Murray documented.[/b][/QUOTE]You've got it all wrong, it is a well known fact that Petrie retracted his bullshit regarding ''the great new race'', and managed to patch up this blunder by introducing his dating method. Even Derry agrees, apparently: [i]The first Predynastic cemeteries were discovered by Professor Flinders Petrie in 1895 at Nakadah on the west bank of the Nile, a few miles north of Luxor. [b]At first he believed he had found a 'new race', but later it was shown that these people were the autochthonous inhabitants of the Nile valley.[/b][/i] [QUOTE] Originally posted by Rahotep: Derry went on: 'It is also very (....) [/QUOTE]No, Derry doesn't go on to say what you're putting in his mouth, namely, that significant difference appear in Naqada II. Evidence for this is in the very quote you provide. I suggest you take another look at it: [i]'It is also very suggestive of the presence of a dominant race, perhaps relatively few in number but greatly exceeding the original inhabitants in intelligence: a race which brought into Egypt the knowledge of building in stone, of sculture, painting, reliefs and above all writing; hence the enormous jump from the [b]primitive predynastic Egyptian to the advanced civilization of the Old Empire.'[/b][/i] There is also a huge disconnect between the Naqada II innovations you mention, and the mostly early dynastic, or better said - perceived to be early dynastic - innovations he mentions, eg writing, reliefs, building in stone. [QUOTE] Originally posted by Rahotep: Anthropological examination of the two burial populations show marked differences, with the newcomers of Nakada II exhibiting Armenoid Characteristics...'[/QUOTE]Using what data? ''Armenoid'' is the term old anthropologist used to refer to heightened brachycephalic elements, but as Derry's data points out, there is no break in the predynastic max cranial breadth and length. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Rahotep: By the way, the bit about the heigh measurement of the newcomers skulls refers to the cranium, not the front of the skull and the face. Obviously everyone's face is longer than it is wide![/QUOTE]And you feel compelled to point that out, because? To be frank, and to make sure you don't misconstrue why I'm debating you on this front, I don't give a sh!t about what Derry thinks, as his work is still outdated, like I said, he doesn't employ multivariate analysis. I'm only in this to refute your claims about the Naqadans, using your own sources, as you've already demonstrated to have a blind spot whenever other sources are posted. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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