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[QUOTE]Originally posted by melchior7: [QB] Calabooz [b]How do you figure that two populations have to be distant from each other to develop different languages? What principle is that statement based on?[/b] Lol. Common sense. I can't believe you can't grasp that. It's not just different languages, But UNRELATED langauges. Do you know anything about language families? The spread of a language is often associated with the spread of a particular haplogroup btw. R for Indo-Europeans languages, J for semitic etc. [b]Not only that, but you totally ignore the evidence of common origins in the south via linguistic evidence.[/b] The evidence would imply that the different groups eventually came to live in proximity of each other and borrowed certian linguistic terms and cultural ideas. Borrowings and cultural exchanges have occured between Indo-European and semitic, Uralic and Indo-European etc But this doesn't tell us about ultimate origins. The Urheimat for Afroasiatic is believed to be the Horn of Africa, though some dispute that. Niger Congo languages,the Nuba mountains, Nilo-Saharan languages,somewhere in the Eastern Sahara. [b]Anybody can tell you that haplogroup T would have been introduced during the Neolithic/ Whoever says it was introduced 20,000 years ago is on crack seeing as how the ancestors to the ancient Egyptians were still in sub-Saharan Africa. [/b] And therein lies your problem. You believe that the Egyptians stem from ONE group of people, the Badarians from the south. Whereas I believe they are a fusiopn of differnt peoples. As far as haplogroup T. It does seem younger than 20,000 years but just before the Neolithic... "Since haplogroup T is not associated with the R1, G and J lineages that entered Africa from Eurasia relatively recently, Luis et al. (2004) suggest that the presence of the clade on the continent may, like R1* representatives, point to an older introduction from Asia. The Levant rather than Southern Arabia appears to have been the main route of entry, as the Egyptian and Turkish haplotypes are considerably older in age (13,700 ybp and 9,000 ybp, respectively) than those found in Oman (only 1,600 ybp). According to the authors, the spotty modern distribution pattern of haplogroup T within Africa may therefore represent the traces of a more widespread early local presence of the clade. Later expansions of populations carrying the E1b1b, E1b1a, G and J NRY lineages may have overwhelmed the T clade-bearers in certain localities." J. R. Luis et al.: The Levant versus the Horn of Africa: Evidence for Bidirectional Corridors of Human Migrations (Errata), American Journal of Human Genetics [b]If you think the above people look Middle Eastern you just aren't familiar with African phenotypes[/b] Yeah I know that ploy. Africans are DIVERSE. That allows you to claim just about anyone. I have argued with a few who claimed that light eyed, fair complected Berbers were just an example of African diversity and have no relation with any non african peoples... [/QB][/QUOTE]
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