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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by melchior7: [qb] Ish Gebor, I knew a lot of algerians in France. While some do look mixed with obvious Black features. The majority are dark mediterranean looking. Here are the typical Algerians you see in France. They don't look like Mulattos. So stop cherry picking photos already. And the fact that E-M81 derives from North East Africa doesn't mean jack. Folks likely mixed with Eurasians by the time they reached the Maghreb especially with females of U6 variety and then with H carriers. Who gives a fcuk what some of their ancestors may have looked like 10,000 years ago in East Africa? It's what they look like now. [/qb][/QUOTE]Many of the people of coastal North Africa are simply of recent European ancestry. I think it is in the book on Algeria : A Country Study, where I read that up to 30% of the population of Algiers in the 19th century were of south European ancestry - descendants of slaves, mercenaries and pirates. According to a recent book by Robert Davis, Christian Slaves, Muslim Masters (2003) Tripoli, in Libya for example, was “occasionally reportedly crowded with large numbers of Greek slaves” (Davis, 2003, p. 112). There are those with earlier European ancestry however, - According to G. Campes Berberes Aux Marges de'LHistoire the techniques of making jewelry among the Algerian Kabyles are similar to that of the ancient Vandalsm,Lombards and other Germanic-related peoples. They still make pottery in the early Greek style. Modern Ghomara are very of Morocco are very light in color and claim descent from the Masmuda further south south. The Masmuda are only referred to as blacks before the 15th century. The article Army Regime and Society in Fatimid Egypt says - “Masamida were Berbers from the Western Maghreb. Nasir-i Khusrau, however, says that they were blacks and characterized them as infantry who used lances and swords” (Lev, p. 342). Of course like the Persian Nasir, Abu Shama also stated the Masmuda were black in the 13th century in his Kitab al-Ravdatayn (Islam: Religion and Society, 2. Bernard Lewis, 1974, p. 217). Their most important branch was the Ghumara which held all of the Mediterranean plains (See The Muslim Conquest and Settlement of North Africa and Spain, A. Taha, 1988, p. 26). Obviously slavery has played a large part in the present appearance of the Berbers. The Masmuda and all other major tribes of Berbers are described the same way until the 15th century. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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