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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Ish Gebor: [qb] Whether Kabyle came from North Europe or have relative high dosage of North European add-mixture. Is open for debate. Fact is, however. Vandals came from Germany, linked to North Europeans from where they do originate. The genepool is evidence of this. Ancient History Sourcebook: Procopius of Caesarea: Gaiseric & The Vandal Conquest of North Africa, 406 - 477 CE "And yet the number of the Vandals and Alans was said in former times, at least, to amount to no more than fifty thousand men. [b]However, after that time by their natural increase among themselves and by associating other barbarians with them they came to be an exceedingly numerous people[/b]." * The Northern part of the Atlas area is close to the Mediterranean sea, before one enters the rest of Morocco one needs to enter there first, known as the RIF. Everyone knowledgeable of history knows that the Vandals entered there. There is no discussion about that. [IMG]http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gomery/Rif.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]This was a great post - Ish. I think I have to go back to Procopius and reread to absorb all those precious details because obviously there are so few on here interested in true history. ;) Can't believe i have been back so many times to Procopius and every time I go back I can glean something spectacular. Can't wait til I can do the same in the Arabic texts. ;) Found some fascinating papers on the color discrimination against the Garamantes and other proto-Berbers in the Vandal African period. Here's one called Was Black Beautiful in the Vandal Africa? http://apaclassics.org/images/uploads/documents/abstracts/starks_2.pdf The author of the paper is a EuroAmerican professor from Binghampton University in New York. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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