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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by malibudusul: [qb] France and germany in 12th, 13th people were very black , flat nose, thick lips like people like say "true black" [/qb][/QUOTE]There were some blacks there then but there is no evidence that there were anything larger than a very small minority in France or Germany at the time. Think I'm wrong? produce some evidence. [IMG]http://estherschreuder.files.wordpress.com/2011/08/db-f193r.jpg[/IMG] ^^^ here, yes. an authentic medieval European illustration with black people in it. Jump for joy were part of old cracker land Do you even know what the scene is about or do you just look at pictures and then skip to new pictures endlessly? So if there's some black people here there are also white people. [QUOTE]Originally posted by malibudusul: [qb] France and germany in 12th, 13th people were very black , flat nose, thick lips like people like say "true black" [/qb][/QUOTE]So the white people in the painting are actually black with "flat noses" and "big lips" ????? what are they doing there? I thought all the nobles were black. There were no regular blacks only nobles who held thir noses in the air and collected taxes form the peasants and ate rack of lamb. Does anybody really believe these theories ir it just an entertaining game? [b] You cannot tell the demographics of a country's population but looking at a few paintings. [/b] suppose you found 50 paintings like this? How would that compare to a majority white population in medieval France or Germany that was in the hundreds of thousands? And if you are look at these paintings what about the rest of your own source? What ifsomebody looks at the rest of the book at your own link: http://www.christusrex.org/www2/berry/berry1.html ^^^^ no never look at the context, the rest of the source only the part that allows your imagination to run wild. Look at this Gothic book, your link, Les Très Riches Heures du Duc de Berry go through each page, This is "black France" ? They all have dark skin and flat noses? What? the paintings are fake? Well then what are a few blacks doing in there? Did they forget to fake some?of the paintings? Did they forget to paint some white? Or were blacks a small minority in France at the time blacks in it? You cannot do demographics by paintings. But even if you did how about looking at every painting by your favorite European painter. What is the proportion of blacks to white in all their paintings you can find, total? Here's another page: What are white people doing there? I thought it was Black France. Oh this is a fake one but they forgot and left a couple of real ones? stop it already [IMG]http://media-2.web.britannica.com/eb-media/09/125009-004-FB194D40.jpg[/IMG] How come you see some obvioulsly black people, darl black people sometimes in these illustrations and paintings but they don't have names or titles? It's a conspiracy? Then why are they there at all for us to go to white owned archives and look at? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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