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[QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [qb] Obviously it shows that Jews didn't have that much power otherwise they would not have been forced to convert and remained public Jews.[/qb][/QUOTE]The conversion was a strategic move. [i]In Christian Spain, faced with animosity and hostility, and threats, from the local Christian populace, in the late fourteenth century the Jewish community set upon an elaborate deceit towards both survival as Jews and power. Known as "conversos," or derisively by Christians as "Marranos" (swine), Spanish Jews converted en masse to Christianity, falsely professing the new faith for public consumption, but remaining Jews in virtually all respects in their private lives. The Jewish historian Cecil Roth notes that once the community embarked upon the ruse of conversion: "The social and economic progress of the recent converts and their descendants became phenomenally rapid. However dubious their sincerity [as Christians], it was now out of the question to exclude them from any walk of life on the ground of their creed. The Law, the administration, the army, the universities, the Church itself, were all overrun by recent converts of more or less questionable sincerity, or by their immediate descendants. They thronged to financial administration; for which they had a natural aptitude; [b]protest being now impossible.[/b] They pushed their way into the municipal councils, into the legislature, into the judiciary. They all but dominated Spanish life ...Within a couple of generations ... almost every office of importance at [Royal] Court was occupied by Conversos and their children."[/i] [ROTH, p. 20-21] [URL=http://holywar.org/jewishtr/06money.htm]link[/URL] Behind the scenes people... [i]Others are clearly uncomfortable with the huge amount of exposure being given Lieberman, preferring the [b]time-honored role[/b] of Jews as behind-the-scenes movers and shakers, who traditionally advance their agenda while letting someone else occupy the public spotlight.[/i] Good for the Jews? By Stuart Weiss Jerusalem Post, Internet edition, as a Jewish World Article, September 4th, 2000. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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