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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Faheemdunkers: [qb] "Old Arab descriptions of "blacks" also reveal that what they meant by "black" is not necessarily what we understand it to mean today. Some medieval Arab writers such as al-Jahiz applied the term "blacks" to practically all peoples darker than the average Arab, and "whites" to peoples lighter than the norm: "The blacks are more numerous than the whites. The whites at most consist of the people of Persia, Jibal, and Khurasan, the Greeks, Slavs, Franks, and Avars, and some few others, not very numerous; the blacks include the Zanj, Ethiopians, the people of Fazzan, the Berbers, the Copts, and Nubians, the people of Zaghawa, Marw, Sind and India, Qamar and Dabila, China, and Masin... the islands in the seas between China and Africa are full of blacks, such as Ceylon, Kalah, Amal, Zabij, and their islands, as far as India, China, Kabul, and those shores" Jahiz's inclusion of Indians, Sindhi, and Chinese as "blacks" reinforces the point that color terms taken out of their cultural contexts are too ambiguous to determine the physical characteristics of peoples with much accuracy." http://www.angelfire.com/md/8/moors.html [/qb][/QUOTE]No Jahiz never ever mentioned Chinese being black! Sorry but the Zabij, Kalah, Sin and Masin refer in early Arab sources to the Kunlun lands of Indo -China covered with blacks that were also called called Zang. I am sorry people that lack knowledge about history have interpreted the word Sin as China when in fact for the Arabs like Jahiz and Yaqubi it referred to the land of Java and Indo-China which was covered with blacks called Kam in those days like the lands of Kambujadesa and Funan or Masin! I said a new batter up please! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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