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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sundjata: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by IronLion: The Buddhist learned from the Kemits. There have been 10 Buddhas in history. Many of them were Kemitian priest spreading the knowledge of the ancient mysteries, herbalism and martial arts. [/QUOTE]This is just a claim. Where is the evidence, lion? Why do you get offended when people simply demand evidence for your claims? [/qb][/QUOTE]What evidence do you require? Be specific and keep it to the topic. I provided you with comparative frames of Kemitian's martial art and Japanese judo. [b]Do you find anything unacceptable therein?[/b] Lion! [/qb][/QUOTE]Only the part that refers to Egyptians as a "brown, Mediterranean race". I also fail to observe any Egyptian buddhists in the above piece. Who is to say wrestling didn't independently co-evolve in Japan and the Nile valley? Shouldn't that be the first line of reasoning in this case? [/qb][/QUOTE]You spend too much time reading European literature. If you respected Black researchers you would know that Africans played an important role in Buddhism and the existence of Buddhists or Gymnosophists in Egypt and Meroe. “It would seem that Buddha was an Egyptian priest, chased from Memphis by the persecution of Cambyses. This tradition would justify the portrayal of Buddha with woolly hair. Historical documents do not invalidate this tradition…There is general agreement today on placing in the sixth century not only Buddha but the whole religious and philosophical movement in Asia with Confucius in China, Zoroaster in Iran. This would confirm the hypothesis of a dispersion of Egyptian priests at that time spreading their doctrine in Asia. (p.287)” Anta Diop in The African Origin of Civilization . Diop's mention of Memphis is quite interested because it is here that Petrie (1908) found evidence of Buddhist colonist in Egypt. Petrie claimed the iconography dated back to the Persian period of Egyptian rule (c 525-405BC). he wrote: "on the right side, at the top is the Tibetan Mongolian, below that the Aryan woman of the Punjab, and at the base a seated figure in Indian attitude with the scarf over the left shoulder. These are the first remains of Indians known on the Mediterranean. Hitherto there have been no material evidences for that connection which is stated to have existed, both by embassies from Egypt and Syria to India, and by the great Buddist mission sent by Asoka as far west as Greece and Cyrene. We seem now to have touched the Indian colony in Memphis, and we may hope for more light on that connection which seems to have been so momentous for Western thought" (p.129). If Petrie's dating is correct this puts Buddhists in Egypt two hundred years before Asoka, sent Buddhist missionaries to Egypt.The Classical writers report on Indian sages in the region. This makes it clear that Buddhist had probably been living in Meroitic Empire and Egypt for 600 years before the Meroites invented Meroitic writing. Philostratus:The Life of Apollonius of Tyana makes it clear that the Gymnosophist lived in Upper Egypt and the Meroitic Empire. The historical evidence makes it clear that there was probably two migrations of Buddhist Gymnosophists to Egypt and the Meroitic Empire. Asoka was a supporter of Buddhism. Zacharias P. Thundy, in Buddha and Christ make it clear that the edits of Asoka (c.274-236 BC) indicate that this ruler sent missionaries to Egypt to preach the Buddhist Dharma(pp.242-243). Thundy maintains that archaeological evidence exist for a community of Indian sages living in Memphis as early as 200 BC (p.243). This was based on the work of Petrie. We know that decendents of these missionaries were still in Egypt over two hundred years later because they were visited by Apollonius of Tyana. Asoka used Kharosthi to write his edits. The Buddhist also used this writing system to record their scriptures. This means that the Gymnosophists would have had a long tradition of employing Kharosthi to communicate their ideas. The Gymnosophists were probably well respected by the Meroites and some Meroites probably had knowledge of Buddhist teachings and literacy. Some Meroites may have played an important role in Buddhist because Blemmyae, a prominent group in the Meroitic Sudan are mentioned in Pali text Tipitaka (see:JDM Derrett, (2002) A Blemmya in India, Numen 49:460-474). Dr.Derrett wrote that in early Pali text " we have a Blemmya (an African) in front rank Buddhist texts of very respectable age (p.465). The Buddhist text where Blemmya were mentioned are very old. The Vinaya pitaka, is dated to the 4th century B.C.E. If Blemmya are mentioned in Buddhists text we can be sure that Meroites were not ignorant of Kharosthi. This would explain why many of the Meroitic symbols agree with Kharosthi. They agree because some Meroites were probably already literate in Kharosthi due to the influence of Buddhism in the Meroitic Empire. . Reference: W. M. Flinders Petrie, The peoples of the Persian Empire, Man (1908) No.71:pp.129-130. . Check out my video on Buddhism in Ancient Egypt and the Sudan: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1dp4JwUYKU Until you learn from Afrocentric researchers you are useless as a future contributor to ancient Black history. Sad. . [/qb][/QUOTE]Winters. Spare me your quackery and tenuous associations. There is not one mention here of martial arts originating in Egypt, among Buddhists, or among Egyptian Buddhist priests. Also, I disregard Diop's opinion here not because he was black, but because he was wrong. Going back to the primary sources, and according to the most widely held traditions, Siddhartha was born a prince of Shakya in a small state in Nepal, not Egypt (I mean, have you ever read a book on his life yourself or is Diop your only source?). Not to mention that there are no records of his practicing martial arts or of martial arts being a core element of Buddhism so your intervention here is irrelevant. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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