Grimaldi man is comprised of two skeletons that are small in stature and unique in morphology, the tallest 5' 2. Aurignacian people were about 6 foot tall.
Clyde, what happened to the Aurignacian people?
cassiterides Member # 18409
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Grimaldi Men were not Negroid/Capoid (Khoisan) but Australoid. Secondly they entered Europe from Asia, not Africa.
They had non-Negroid nose bridges -
'''The bridge of the nose is not flat as in negroes, but rather prominent as in Europeans'' (Keith, 1911, pp.59-60).
The nasal bridge in Negroids is flat and broad. Yet despite having a prominent (thin) nasal bridge, the Grimaldi skulls are platyrrhine (wide-nosed). Australoids are the only race to posess this variation of a narrow nasal bridge but platyrrhine nose (Fenner, 1939; Gates, 1960).
- Fenner F. J (1939) ''The Australian Aboriginal skull: its non-metrical morphological characters'', Transactions of the Royal Society of South Australia, LXIII, pp. 248-306.
- The Australian Aborigines in a New Setting, R. R. Gates, Man, Vol. 60, Apr., 1960, pp. 53-56.
Grafton Elliot Smith (1927) first proposed that the Grimaldi were Australoid. In 1951, the anthropologist Andrew Arthur Abbie in an report concluded the same.
- ''The Australian Aborigine'', Oceania, Vol. XXII, pp. 91-100
quote:Originally posted by cassiterides: Grimaldi Men were not Negroid/Capoid (Khoisan) but Australoid. Secondly they entered Europe from Asia, not Africa.
They had non-Negroid nose bridges -
'''The bridge of the nose is not flat as in negroes, but rather prominent as in Europeans'' (Keith, 1911, pp.59-60).
The nasal bridge in Negroids is flat and broad. Yet despite having a prominent (thin) nasal bridge, the Grimaldi skulls are platyrrhine (wide-nosed). Australoids are the only race to posess this variation of a narrow nasal bridge but platyrrhine nose (Fenner, 1939; Gates, 1960).
- Fenner F. J (1939) ''The Australian Aboriginal skull: its non-metrical morphological characters'', Transactions of the Royal Society of South Australia, LXIII, pp. 248-306.
- The Australian Aborigines in a New Setting, R. R. Gates, Man, Vol. 60, Apr., 1960, pp. 53-56.
Grafton Elliot Smith (1927) first proposed that the Grimaldi were Australoid. In 1951, the anthropologist Andrew Arthur Abbie in an report concluded the same.
- ''The Australian Aborigine'', Oceania, Vol. XXII, pp. 91-100
This is ludicris. Augrignacian culture began in Iberia. The oldest sites are in Iberia. Also, there are no Aurignacian sites in Asia, except the Levant . As is obvious on the map the influence was very limited.
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Mike111 Member # 9361
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Clyde - Nice video. Cass is a blabbering fool, who barely knows his ass from a hole in the ground, why bother.
Marc Washington Member # 10979
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Dr. Winters. We all benefit from your work as a disseminator of African history through the audio-visual medium of You-tube.
I like your inclusion of Diop and Dubois in these discussions.
Thanks and keep up the great work!
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cassiterides Member # 18409
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Clyde Augrignacian culture is associated with late stage Neanderthals, not Grimaldi.
Neanderthals of europe were fair skinned and red haired. Note how you keep mentioning iberia -
DNA tests on forty-three-thousand-year-old Neanderthals from El Sidrón cave, in northern Spain, revealed a pigmentation MICR gene shows that some Neanderthals had pale skin, red hair, and even, perhaps, freckles.
Neanderthals phenotypically had the earliest Caucasoid/White racial traits.
Clyde Winters Member # 10129
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Most researchers continue to publish old depictions of Neanderthal man. New research make it clear they resembled Africans not beastly Europeans.
As a result there is nothing wrong in studying the Neanderthals. .
the lioness Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] Most researchers continue to publish old depictions of Neanderthal man. New research make it clear they resembled Africans not beastly Europeans.
what are some of the titles of the new research studies saying that neaderthals were dark skinned?
Clyde Winters Member # 10129
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quote:Originally posted by the lioness:
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] Most researchers continue to publish old depictions of Neanderthal man. New research make it clear they resembled Africans not beastly Europeans.
what are some of the titles of the new research studies saying that neaderthals were dark skinned?
All you have to do is look at the authentic reproductions of Neanderthal and you can answer the queation yourself.
quote:Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] Most researchers continue to publish old depictions of Neanderthal man. New research make it clear they resembled Africans not beastly Europeans. All you have to do is look at the authentic reproductions of Neanderthal and you can answer the queation yourself.
You have not linked that image to a study, it links to a webiste called "femaine beauty info" Besides, there's no such thing as an authentic reproduction of a Neanderthal particularly in skin color and hair type. Ancient bones of this age are completly bare of the remains of skin and hair. That is completely up to the whim of the artist. This is a recent National Geographic reconstruction:
-but no one knows the actual skin color or hair type, that's a fact
cassiterides Member # 18409
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quote:but no one knows the actual skin color or hair type, that's a fact
The neanderthals of europe were red haired and fair skinned.
DNA tests (2007) on forty-three-thousand-year-old Neanderthals from El Sidrón cave, in northern Spain, revealed a pigmentation MICR gene.