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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Perahu: [qb] [b]Clyde Winters is a retard.[/b] Look at his websites: http://clyde.winters.tripod.com/junezine/ http://olmec98.net/ You can easily tell he is a blatant Afrocentric charlatan. He got these papers published in an open access journal: http://maxwellsci.com/ I suppose they must be really desperate for any articles that will "fill space", as well as their pockets (yes, you have to pay a fee to get an article published in that journal.) [/qb][/QUOTE]Firstly, I am proud to be an Afrocentric scholar. I have been one all my academic life. LOL. You have to pay a fee to publish in just about all online journals. In most cases as much as $1400 or more . Moreover, most papers in genetics are published in open access journals.[/QUOTE][/qb] Not true, most of the influential and cited articles in genetics are published in mainline peer-reviewed journals for instance just a few of the ones I look at [b]American Journal of Human Genetics[/b],{b]Annals of Human Genetics[/b],[Proceedings of the National Academy of Science, PNAS[/b], [European Journal of Genetics[/b], [b]Nature[/b],[b]Science[/b],[b]Nature Genetics[/b],[b]Nature Reviews-Genetics[/b];[BMC Genetics[/b],[b]BMC Genomics[/b],[b]Molecular Biology and Evolution[/b],[b]American Journal of Physical Evolution[/b], etc. etc. this is just a tiny sample of the peer-reviewed journals on genetics- take a look at the list in "Entrez PubMed." [qb] [QUOTE]You are a joke. I have had articles published in BioEssay, PNAS, Science and etc., these are 'mainstream journals'. Where are your publications? You can find my population genetics articles here: http://olmec98.net/archaeogenetics.HTM . [/qb][/QUOTE]Analyzing Winters’ list of publications confirms my previous statement that he has not published a refereed article in a mainline refereed journal. There were a number of broken links in his list, but all of his contributions to mainline journals i.e. [b]Bioassay[/b], [b]PNAS[/b], [b]Science[/b], and [b]PLoS Genetics[/b] were letters commenting on someone else’s article. Letters and comments are NOT peer-reviewed, and are mostly ignored by the author’s of the original papers. Winters is probably counting on the fact that most people are not familiar with academic publishing and can be bamboozled into thinking that his contributions to prestigious journals are peer-reviewed articles. Don’t take my word, go to his list and verify that these contributions are letters: “Were the First Americans Africans?” In this Winters drags in publications that have been refuted over and over here (Green, Lisker, Wierciski, Underhill); “The Fulani were not from the Middle East” the authors of the original paper point out that Winters attributes to them things that they did not say; “Literacy in the Indus Valley” Essentially Winters writes that he agrees with the article; “Did the Dravidian Speakers Originate in Africa” In a familiar pattern, the authors of the article Winters was commenting on point out that he is not familiar with genetics: [QUOTE] Chaubey, G. et al. 2007 “Reply to Winters,” [b]BioAssays[/b] 29: 499. MtDNA-based genetic arguments provided by Dr. Winters in favor of gene flow from Africa to Dravidian-speaking Indians are, however, entirely erroneous. The author has been, unfortunately, confused by overlooking changes in mtDNA haplogroup (hg) nomenclature. Namely hg, M1 in Kivisild et al.(4) has been later changed to hg M3, in order to avoid parallel nomenclatures.(5) Furthermore, a recent dedicated paper on phylogeography of mtDNA hg M1(6) as well as an extensive comparative mapping of autosomal genetic markers among many Indian populations relative to global populations elsewhere, including Africans,(7) do not provide any clues for a putative recent gene flow, from Africa, to Dravidian-speaking populations in South Asia.[/QUOTE]Most his stuff, as I wrote is published in new open-access journals that are not really peer reviewed prior to publication. Some go through the motions, others claim post-review, which is a joke. Of these papers, 7 came out in publications by Maxwell (a post review open access) 6 in Current Research Journal of Biological Sciences and 1 in Current Research Journal of Science. Two papers in International Internet Journal (of hematology, and of Biological Anthropology). one in International Journal of Genetics and Molecular Biology, and one in Indian Journal of Human Genetics (this paper has been cited a grand total of one time—by Winters himself. None of these are prestigious or mainline. It's also interesting that Winters has been pushing the R*-M173 line in several of these papers [/qb][/QUOTE]You're such a liar. BMC and PLoS are both open access journals. They cost between $1600-2000+ to publish. Many authors in these publications have published more than one article. Instead of talking about the quality of the journals where my work is published why don't you prove me wrong. In every one of my articles I show that Dravidians came from Africa recently and they carry African haplogroups and y-chromosomes. LOL. You're a joke. My articles are review articles and as a result, I present citations /references supporting my claims. Until you disconfirm the studies I report your comments are lacking any foundation. Finally, if a letter is published in a peer reviewed journal, as you know the references are reviewed, and up until now no one has disputed my sources. . [/QB][/QUOTE]
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