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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] [IMG]http://bulk2.destructoid.com/ul/164293-marilynmanson.jpg[/IMG] ^^[i]Caucasoid "role model"... [/i] [b]2--WHite "role models" are leading the charge to redefine and destroy traditional marriage along homosexual lines. [/b] It took people on the left side- the despised Black and Hispanic "NAMs", to preserve traditional marriage in California, USA. Whites were willing to undermine it, and continue to do so nationwide. Derbyshire and other HBDers are always lecturing black folk on monogamy, conveniently skirting the fact that whites themselves are fast undermining and destroying monogamy. [b]A related claim advanced by biodiversity proponents is the absence of monogamy among Africans until "outside" influences like European colonialism brought it. [/b] But this is nonsense. Polygamy was more common in Africa than in Europe, but monogamy also has a long history in Africa even before Africans were forciblly transported to the US, and before any significant influence from Europe. Of the 31 captives of the famous Amistad slave ship for example, 15 were married, and only 1 was polygamous, and monogamy is common in various parts of Africa. [i]See <i>Slavery in North Carolina, 1748-1775. by Marvin L. Michael Kay, Lorin Lee Cary- pg 160.</i> [/i] Some HBDers also tout "Middle easterners" and Asians as "role models" on this score but in fact, Asia has had polygamy for a long time parallel with monogamy, along with things like multiple concubinage, practiced in China. And it was not until 1945 that polygamy was finally abolished in Japan. And people like Jews practiced polygamy for centuries as documented in the Bible and anthropological studies. For Arabs and those who follow Islam, polygamy is permissible even today. Indeed while monogamy has been more dominant in Europe, polygamy has always been around until very recent times. Indeed, one of the things Christianity did for Europe was to stamp out and discourage polygamy. Ironically, there is also a long tradition of polygamy in white Christianity [i](see <i>After polygamy was made a sin: the social history of Christian polygamy- By John Cairncross</i>),[/i] and polygamy is documented as common in white Russia in various eras. Ironically Christianity itself, based on the religion of a Semitic people from the sub-tropical Middle East, not cold climate areas, was adopted in white Europe, and thus provided the "rules of morality" that helped suppress polygamy (among other things) by Europeans in many regions as Cairncross notes. In the modern era, the revolving door divorce cycle of many modern whites closely approaches patterns of polygamy. [b]Another related claim is of an era of idyllic white virtue and goodness during the 1970s, a temporary time of paradise, before disreputable "minorities" moved in to spoil things[/b]. Alas this claim too, in its many variants, both hard and soft, is bogus. The supposed "idyllic serenity" may have existed in SOME white areas, but within that haze of supposed sweetness and light, white America was rapidly degenerating in the 1970s, a continuation of trends from the 1960s, long before any real "integration" of the suburbs by blacks. White America saw rising divorce rates, rising drug use, rising out of wedlock births, rising feminism, rising homosexuality, etc. All this is well documented by historians in books such as Bruce J. Schulman's 2002 [i]"The seventies: the great shift in American culture, society.." [/i]Furthermore the driving forces behind such changes were whites themselves. Black "militancy" or crime for example has little to do with why rising numbers of whites decided to divorce in the 1970s for example, hastening the breakdown of white family structure, whatever the psychic satisfactions of using the black "Other" as a convenient scapegoat. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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