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[QUOTE]Originally posted by dana marniche: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by claus3600: [qb] My reading on Ancient Egypt has linked to several related topics, the latest one being the presence of Africans in Arabia. Given that the crossing from Eritrea/Djibouti into Yemen was the OOA migration route, it would seem that these would have been the first and original Arabians. I understand that there would have been further waves of Africans making the crossing, and that there would have been contact between Africans on both sides of the Red Sea. However, on the question of whether today's black Yemenis are indigenous, the response is that they are the descendants of slaves. Can anyone shed any light on/provide a link to an old thread on whether today's black Yemenis are the descendants of slaves or whether they are indigenous? Book recommendations would also be appreciated. [/qb][/QUOTE]Many blacks in Yemen in the Persian Gulf are from recent slaves, while many others are descended from the only pure Arabs that existed 1000 years ago - the near black and kinky haired ones. Descendants of the original black Arabs are found throughout the peninsula. [IMG]http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/khazraj/HodeidahTihama.jpg[/IMG]Tihama The land of Tihama is known as Kush in the Bible and in certain later Arab texts like those of Ibn Mudjawir. “Whether original Arabian Kushite tribes migrated into eastern Africa and gave their name to the land, or African Kushites migrated into Arabia, in the biblical view the peoples on either side of the Red Sea were regarded as of the same Kushite stock.” P. 19 The Curse of Ham David Goldenberg, 2005. The skeletal evidence of ancient Arabia was nearly identical to that representative of populations of Nubia and ancient Egypt. lets not forget that. Ibn Khaldun didn't call the Arabian region the second zone of Sudan for nothing. Ibn Manzour didn't say most Arabs are "dark brown" or black and "kinky haired" for nothing. Jahiz didn't say all of the tribes of the harra were black like the lava for nothing. BTW - al-harra is a 15,000 kilometer region extending from southern Syria into Saudi Arabia past Medina. The speakers of the Himyarite dialects who are primarily black are not descendants of slaves they are the people that brought the semitic dialects into the Near East and their dialects and culture is still clearly of ancient semitic origin. For millenia they were the only Arabs in existence. The Himyarites or Sabaeans were the people who became the semites and canaanites of the Hebrew texts - “The Himyarites are mentioned in classical literature under the name of Homerites. They traced their origin to himyar, grandson of Saba and descendant of Joktan or Kahtan, one of the mythical ancestors of the Arabs. According to their traditions, they became the dominant race in Yemen about 3,000 years before the time of Mohammed… Direct descendants of the Himyarites are the tribes of Mahrah. They are black in color, medium in stature, Semitic in countenance…” (1873) The American Cyclopaedia; A popular dictionary of general Knowledge, Volume 8, p. 734) Many of the bedouin Arabs of Jordan are also not descended from slaves but remnants of the Nabataeans and of the Harra spoken of by Jahiz, Dhahabi and others. [IMG]http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/khazraj/saudibedouin.jpg[/IMG] Many bedouin in Arabia in the north and central regions are still black [IMG]http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/khazraj/HuwaytatbedouinofJordan.jpg[/IMG] Groups like the Huwaytat still living in Sinai and Jordan claim descent from the Nabataeans i.e. Kedarites. The phrase black Nabataeans was in use until a very late period. Complaining about the Abbasids who had taken over Islam, an early Imam named Reza (d. 9th century) wrote "the black Nabatis have undertaken their ministries". The Nabataeans were typical of the northern Arab or so-called Adnanite Ishmaelite populations. In early Islamic times the phrase "fair-skinned resembling like a slave" was in use among the Arabs because as Ibn Manzur and Jahiz said "the Arabs attribute fair-skin to the slaves". However with reference again to the Yemen or southern Arabia, the real Arabs came from the Qahtan, Kahlan people (Himyarites, Azd) etc. They are represented by the Mahra and Shahara and other tribes that look similar to east Africans. [IMG]http://i746.photobucket.com/albums/xx108/khazraj/MahramanofArabiawithhisfalcon-1.jpg[/IMG] Mahra man [/QB][/QUOTE]
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