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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: [QB] Mike [QUOTE] [b]Originally posted by Mike111: quote: Originally posted by Brada-Anansi: Mike there is a difference between pop culture and high culture Actually in it's time, that WAS pop culture. But giving you a break: Please show some examples of current "HIGH" culture. I see that you are stuck, so let me try and help you out.[/b] [/QUOTE][IMG]http://www.exposay.com/celebrity-photos/russell-simmons-2004-vanity-fair-oscar-party-TcuHCn.jpg[/IMG] Well the above is nouveau below are AA's traditon that goes back over a century [IMG]http://blogs.denverpost.com/davidson/files/2011/06/owl-4-495x330.jpg[/IMG] The African-American Elite Hi, fellow educated black-Americans. For those of you who aren't familiar with the book Our Kind Of People by Lawrence Graham it potrays the lives of the upper class black families that basically lead their lives completely out of public eye. Similarly to the parallel white "high society" many of the activities conducted by the black upper class are considered elitist by middle and lower class blacks, and remain unknown to white American's. The book talks about the Divine Nine: particularly the oldest most coveted five(Alphas, Omegas, Kappas, AKAs and Deltas), The Boule, Links, Jack and Jill of American, Girl Friends, Spelman, Howard, Morehouse, Camp Atwater(oldest historically black summer camp that is very costly ie. $750 per week), and the black summer enclaves such as Sag Harbor and Oak Bluffs. It also places strong emphasize on participating in the "right" debutante cotillion: with the most acceptable ones being Delta's, Link's, and AKA's. Now, I was wondering what other educated black Americans think about this book. I myself plan to attend Spelman College, I currently attend prep school, have a mother who is an AKA, hope to also be an AKA, am participating in a AKA debtante cotillion, my great grandmother was the first black woman to attend Roosevelt University in Chicago, my grandfather was the first black council man in my state etc, but this book is quite controversial. Especially now that the author is putting out a Black American Social Register that will feature the 800 most prominent black families in America. It will feature politicians, socialites, lawyers, doctors, CEOs etc. It however will not feature actors, basketball and football players, etc. I believe it is good that there will finally be something in large capacity that shows blacks in a positive image other than them being movie stars. The controversy is that not only do you have to be well educated by the top hbcu's or ivy league(better yet both), but you have to come from the right family, marry into the right family, summer in the right location, and even have the right look, while belonging to the correct social clubs. So it is extremely similar to the "white" social register listing people such as the Kennedy's and Vanderbilts. Many people of the black upper class have been calling him a wannabe and are angry that their lives are going to be out for public display. Many lower class blacks feel this is a disgrace to publish something so elitist. [b]NOTE ACTORS AND ATHLETES NEED NOT APPLY[/b] [IMG]http://www.psupress.org/images/covers/FullSize/0-271-02020-2md.jpg[/IMG] [b]The Elite of Our People is an important addition to the literature on free black northern society, for it goes beyond historians’ interest in white antebellum abolitionists to allow a young African American to speak for his community and himself.”[/b] When I said that they exist for a hundred or so yrs I meant it. [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/f/f6/1829-philadelphia-black-bourgeoisie-flesh-coloured.jpg/516px-1829-philadelphia-black-bourgeoisie-flesh-coloured.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6154/6174911980_a5b17e905b.jpg[/IMG] “The black upper class has most often been associated with the Episcopal Church,” says Rev. Harold T. Lewis, the author of Yet with a Steady Beat: The African American Struggle for Recognition in the Episcopal Church and rector of Calvary Episcopal Church in Pittsburgh. Despite earlier affiliations with the Baptist and Methodist denominations and the larger numbers of blacks who currently make up those congregations, the black elite have often selected the more formal high Episcopal Church or Congregational Church. The Episcopal faith was attractive because of its formality, and both faiths were appealing because they were known for having well-educated clergy and a small number of members. Well-to-do black Americans with roots in the West Indies had natural historic ties to the Episcopal Church, which had served a major role in Jamaica and other former British colonies for several generations. The Congregational Church’s popularity among the black elite grew from the fact that it was the denomination that had given the greatest support to the American Missionary Association’s efforts in establishing secondary schools and colleges for southern blacks in the late 1800s. And for some of the most cynical and status-conscious members of the black elite, the two denominations were particularly appealing simply because most blacks were not of that faith. In every city where there are members of the black elite, there is an Episcopal or a Congregational Church that dominates the upper-class black religious scene: In Chicago, it is St. Edmund’s or Good Shepherd; in Detroit, St. Matthew’s; in Philadelphia, St. Thomas; in Memphis, Second Congregational; in Charleston, St. Mark’s; in Washington, St. Luke’s; in Atlanta, First Congregational; and in New York, St. Philip’s. Some say that the black upper class disdains the open display of emotions that are often shared in Baptist and AME [= African Methodist Episcopal] churches, while others say that Episcopal and Congregational denominations have better-educated church leaders. For whatever the reason, the choice does keep the elite separated. And just as there have been special churches for the black upper class, so are there special social groups that separate men, women, and children of different classes. http://faroutliers.wordpress.com/2007/07/18/gimme-that-upscale-religion/ Off course they are mostly Greek pledged in collage [IMG]http://www.oakbluffsma.gov/oakbluffs/homesplash.jpg[/IMG] [b]Oak Bluffs[/b] One of the places they liked to vacation,and not on the boardwalk in Jersey or Coney Island. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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