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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: [QB] ^ [b]LOL[/b] @ the video with the deranged Anglo-idiot mom. (Must be something in the water of England to have so many idiots in that country). But... [IMG]http://perugiamurderfile.org/images/smilies/rofl.gif[/IMG] [b]ROTFLMAOH[/b] @ the hilarious pics with corresponding captions! Caucasian self-hatred indeed! [b]LOL[/b] :D Speaking of which... [QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Anglo_Idiot: [qb] Plato called for the death penalty for homosexuals, Athenian law also banned pederasty. The fringe scholars, or people in general who like to overstress homosexuality in ancient greece are themselves usually homosexual. The fact homosexuality is found in ancient greek texts does not mean it was pubically approved, quite the contrary. If you did your research instead of spamming this forum up with crap, you would know most Greeks supported the death penalty for gays. [/qb][/QUOTE]What "fringe" scholarship you dumb-ass dufus? As usual you have nothing to offer but nonsensical hot air. Death was a penalty for forcible kidnapping and homosexual rape, or certain hiring out for homosexual activity and civic participation as a community member- such as a father hiring out his son as a homosexual prostitute, but as shown by the scholars above, the "educational" man-boy format was considered consensual among the Greeks, not a forcible rape, or a forced prostitution scenario. In fact one of the same scholars addresses the death penalty saying: [i]"It was not the case that the law prescribed the death penalty for a male prostitute and for his client."[/i]{Dynes) Free consensual activity was thus generally protected. Your claim is not only your usual crock of bullshiit, but even in the cases of penalty, the execution of the actual sentence was in no way guaranteed, and it was layered with multiple provisions and qualifications. Actual behavior versus laws on the books as everyone knows is what counts. Yet another scholar takes up the so-called "penalty" - noting the sense is vague in the Greek texts: QUOTE:[i]"This is usually taken as an euphemism for the death penalty. But it is unlikely that the law carried any penalty beyond disenfranchisement."[/i] --T. Hubbard, Homosexuality in Greece and Rome, p 134 The clear fact is that multiple credible scholars who have studied the subject note that homosexuality was not only accepted but embraced as a high cultural ideal in the white Greek world. None of these scholars ever claim that it met with 100% approval of the populace. It didn't. Some opposition was based on status- the free citizen as passive participant, not on the action itself. The opposition is documented by the researchers above but so is the cultural appeal and lionization. None of you pathetic denials and wriggling can change this. Now adjourn your ass.. [/qb][/QUOTE][b]LOL[/b] Do I sense homophobia from the Anglo-Idiot even though such was very much a part of his heritage?! And the fool claims to have a degree in 'Classics' even though ALL Classical scholars agree with the evidential FACT that homosexuality was part and parcel of Greco-Roman culture! [b]LOL[/b] @ his distortion of Plato! By the way, Plato did disapprove of an erastes (older male lover) consumating his relationship with his eromenos (young male lover) and views it as a failure of self-discipline and self-restraint for he views the erastes to behave like a mentor only , he does not view it as a crime and certainly he does not view homosexual acts between peers as wrong at all! And what about the Anglo-Idiot's actual Germanic and Celtic ancestors??! From all the evidence of 2nd hand accounts of the Greeks and Romans, the Celtic and Germanic tribes certainly did not view homosexuality as a crime but rather cherished it! [b]LOL[/b] :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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