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[QUOTE]Originally posted by zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova: [QB] GOod exposure of the dubious "hamitic union" Dana. Their claims easily fall flat on examination in 3 ways. [IMG]http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/6109/tropicalafridiversityna.jpg[/IMG] 1) So-called "leading authority" Froment has in no way "debunked" the data of Hiernaux. To the contrary- Hiernaux's balanced model of African diversity, including elongated Africans, has been confirmed multiple times, using both skeletal evidence and DNA, and is so cited by Keita 1991, 1999, 2005 etc. The only "debunking" is of the bogus fantasies of the equally bogus "hamitic" "union". [IMG]http://img822.imageshack.us/img822/8717/africanm1a.jpg[/IMG] 2. Maca-Meyer's claims are unimpressive as part of any racial "Kakazoid" model of expansion. We all know that there has been ancient gene flow via the crossroads that is the Middle East, but at what point did such gene flow become "Kakazoid", save as yet another self-serving Eurocentric labeling exercise? In fact, Maca-Meyer undermines assorted "Kakazoid" race models by noting that gene differentiation was ALREADY occurring WITHIN Africa t`ens of thousands of years ago. IN other words, the gene variants that would become distinctive in Asia and the "Middle East" were ALREADY taking place WITHIN Africa BEFORE any SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OUTWARD. These would grow more distinct due to time and distance from Africa but the founding variants and/or proto-variants were ALREADY in place WITHIN Africa. Hence, African fishermen migrating into the Sinai PEnisula or Arabia circa 60kya did not suddenly become "Middle Eastern" or "Eurasian" nor does a white guy who crosses the Rio Grande into Mexico suddenly become "Hispanic." THis is the cynical labeling game being foisted on the gullible by the European academy to de-africanize tropical African peoples, or minimize their built in indigenous diversity. [IMG]http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/3941/backflowblues.jpg[/IMG] 3. Claims of "racial backflow" (however disguised with labels like "EUrasian" or "Middle Eastern") fall short, because those "backflowing" ALREADY RESEMBLED TROPICAL AFRICANS as proved by credible studies. It is hilarious to watch the self-serving hypocrisy of Eurocentrics. When dark-skinned, broad-nosed people with tropical limb proportions are found far west of the Sahara they are firmly "true negroes." WHen similar people are found in Arabia, the SInai or Iraq they comnveniently become "Eurasian." THe bogus "hamitic union" is a prime example of this hypocrisy in operation. ------------------------------------------------------------------ [b]In the attack on Afrocentrism so condescendingly voiced by the non-anthropologist Stephen Howe about African American historians he expressed his view that of a "moribund state" of the older "Eurocenttric" "Mediterranean race" theory. Afrocentrism: Mythical Pasts and Imagined Homes p. 116 [/b] ^^Stephen Howe himself dabbles in hypocrisy and strawmen. He spends a great deal of time railing against "Afrocentrics" but carefully buried in his condescending screed is an admission of the central point raised by so-called "Afrocentrics".. [IMG]http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_VDkeblO4dv8/TTrt2CZ__JI/AAAAAAAAAAM/kcDK7iRbv1E/s1600/howeafrocentrismadmission.jpg[/IMG] Likewise Froment is quoted as bashing the "Afrocentrics" but he too quietly admits the "sub-Saharan" character of the Nile Valley in various eras as well as similarities between Egyptians and East Africans. [b]Gene flow into the Nubian area during the Neolithic was not from reputed "wandering Caucasoids" but from tropical, Sub-Saharan types.[/b] "Prior to the Neolithic, populations of the Nile Valley in Nubia are very robust, and, because of a gap in the fossil record,` it is difficult to connect them to later populations. Some have postulated a local evolution, due to diet change, while others postulated migrations, especially from the Sahara area. But between 5000 and 1000 BC, many cemeteries have supplied a large amount of skeletons, and the anatomical characters of Nubian populations are easier to follow-up. Twenty-seven archaeological samples (4 at 5000 BC, 5 at 4000 BC, 10 at 3000 BC, 3 at 2000 BC, 5 at 1000 BC), and 10 craniofacial measurements, have been considered. While cerebral skull is fairly stable, facial skull displays several regular modifications, and specially a reduction of facial and nasal heights, a broadening of the nose, and an increase of prognathism, while bizygomatic breadth is unchanged. These features illustrate a trend towards a growing resemblance with populations of Sub-Saharan Africa living in wet environments. However, paleoclimatological studies show that Nubia experienced an increasing aridification during that period. It is then unlikely that such a morphological change could be related to any local adaptive evolution to environment. Random drift is also unlikely, because the anatomical trend is relatively uniform during these millennia. It then seems more plausible that these changes correspond to the increasing presence of Southern populations migrating northward." -- Froment, A. (2002) Morphological micro-evolution of Nubian Populations from, A-Group to Christian Epochs: gene flow, not local adaptation. Am J Phys Anthropol [Suppl] 34:72. [b]Afrocentric critic Froment also notes:[/b] "Black populations of the Horn of Africa (Tigré and Somalia) fit well into Egyptian variations." (Froment, Alain, Origines du peuplement de l’Égypte ancienne: l’apport de l’anthropobiologie, Archéo-Nil 2 (Octobre 1992), 79-98) This is a common pattern with the Eurocentrics. They build great bogus strawmen to slay - such as the dreaded bogeymen- the "Afrocentrics" while behind the scenes, at the backdoor, grudgingly conceding several central points raised by said "Afrocentrics." It's like Mary Lefkowitz who admits the African character of ancient Egypt, even as "Afrocentric critics" continue to use her work to "refute" Afrocentrism. These people actually believe no one has yet caught on to the game. [IMG]http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/9025/lefkowitzdebunk.jpg[/IMG] [b]It turns out the Euronuts are not as Neanderdumb as one might have been misled to think. They can actually be excused for their constant harping on themes thought to be mostly long obsolete in the West. [/b] ^^Not so much excused as exposed. They can say what they like but once the the 3 points above are considered, their whole hypocritical edifice crumbles like a rotten house of cards. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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