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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Khufu: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by anguishofbeing: [qb] [QUOTE]“time and unforeseen occurrence befall [us] all.” (Ecclesiastes 9:11)[/QUOTE]LOL You idiot, this is no way solves the dilemma of the omnipotence of god and tragic events. If it is "unforseen" to god then he is not all knowing. If he knew it would happen and does nothing to stop it, then [b]it was[/b] part of his plan. How can Zimmerman (according to Christian theology) or anybody do something that was [b]against[/b] god's plan? This means god is not all powerful. The notion of fee will doesn't adequately address it either because even if you argue god gives free will to humans he still knows [b]what[/b] they will choose and [b]allows[/b] it. [b]Logically, the fact that this happened under the watch of an all powerful god means that it was part of his plan that Martin die that night.[/b] As a Jew,Christian,Muslim you can't escape this. Christian theology is on Zimmerman's side here. Again Martin's parents arent too bright. I think somewhere in the bible (Isiah?) it says that god [b]creates[/b] evil. This reconciles the problem of an omnipotent god and an evil world. But it raises other more troubling questions... [QUOTE]Originally posted by asante-Korton: [qb] 6 commandment: Thou shalt not kill. [/qb][/QUOTE]This is stupid on so many levels I swear you must be six or something. lol [/qb][/QUOTE]Obviously there has been an misunderstanding. I said:“time and unforeseen occurrence befall [us] all.” Meaning tragic events such as natural disasters, accidents, being at the wrong place and at the wrong time, etc. No where in that scripture it said that such events was unforseen by God. 2 Not necessarily. For example: If I knew that a Tornado was headed towards the next town and did nothing to warn the people, then was it my plan for the loss of life that the Tornado took? The same here with God. You have a Predestinarian view. This concept would mean that, prior to creating angels or earthling man, God exercised his powers of foreknowledge and foresaw and foreknew all that would result from such creation, including the rebellion of one of his spirit sons, the subsequent rebellion of the first human pair in Eden and all the bad consequences of such rebellion down to and beyond this present day. This would necessarily mean that all the wickedness that history has recorded ( crime, immorality, oppression, resultant suffering, lying, hypocrisy, false worship and idolatry) once existed, before creation’s beginning, only in the mind of God, in the form of his foreknowledge of the future in all of its minutest details. If the Creator of mankind had indeed exercised his power to foreknow all that history has seen since man’s creation, then the full weight of all the wickedness thereafter resulting was deliberately set in motion by God when he spoke the words: “Let us make man.”. God has the capability to know from the beginning the finale. However, God does not have to use this capability, just as he does not always have to use his immense power to the full. He wisely uses his ability of foreknowledge selectively. He uses it when it makes sense to do so and fits the circumstances. 3 No where in the Bible does it says that God creates Evil.lol If true, it would be in direct conflict with God’s moral standards and qualities, which includes justice, honesty, impartiality, love, mercy, and kindness. You asked: "How can Zimmerman (according to Christian theology) or anybody do something that was against god's plan? This means god is not all powerful". It was never God's plan from the start.lol Like I said, God did not having anything to do with the situation that took place between Zimmerman and Martin. If it was God's plan every choice we make in life, then why would God make his intelligent creatures "accountable for their acts" If it was his plan right from the get-go? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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