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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl: [qb] LOL yourself. 1) please [b]quote[/b] a linguistics textbook that says that only consonants are important in determining genetic relationships-- you make things up all the time. 2) Even by your standard your methodology is erroneous since you completely ignore the key role that glottal stops [b]CONSONANTS[/b] play in Mayan languages and the fact that Mande does not have the [b]CONSONANT[/b] glottal stop. Thus no sound correspondence is possible. 3) sound correspondences are not the only thing that is involved in these determinations, there also has to be a corresponding [b]MEANING[/b] as in your "feeble example. None of the many meanings of KU is "god" just more spam [/qb][/QUOTE]LOL. You don't know anything about comparative linguistics. You look for analogous consonants to determine a relationship. For example lets look at the word feeble 'weak': (Latin) flabilis > (Fr.)faible > (Eng) Feeble=weak. If you notice these words have different vowels, but they share a similar phonological pattern: f-b-l. The words from these diverse languages shows regular sound correspondences. Thus we can say they are related. The same thing is true of Mayan Ku/Qu 'god' and Mande Ku 'to be sacre'. To be sacre corresponds to 'god'. You only concentrate on vowels when reconstructing a proto-language. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/lord.jpg[/IMG] You would know this if you were a linguist. [/qb][/QUOTE]Clyde, you think that repeating the same garbage over and over will somehow make it valid. Your page scan says nothing relevant to the discussion. Here you are not arguing that there have been regular "sound correspondences" between Mande and Mayan, such as the fact that German [v] like in "vater" shifts to [f] as in "father" in English, This can be seen in lots of words but you have not shown that this is so. You usually cite isolated random words. Here you are arguing that [ku] Mande is the same as [k7(usual sign for glottal stop) u]. However, this is impossible since the CONSONANT [glottal stop} does not exist in Mande. The most basic linguistics acknowledges that the glottal stop is a CONSONANT- if you know this , why do you never acknowledge its presence. Further, please give the exact page number in Delafosse or other recognized mande dictionary where "ku" means "to be sacred". Delafosse (1955 pp 415-420) has a number of definitions – none of them “god” 1 k/uo/ = “washing, to wash, to bathe” 2. k/uo/ = “yam Dioscorea alata” 3. k/uo/ = “tail, to stand in line, “ 4. k/uo/ = “evil, bad, poor” Four identically sounding words— they must be different tones 5. k/oun nasal vowel/] = “head, summit” 6. k/on nasal vowel/] = “that which should be isolated, to be sacred, adult, respect, etc.” kuo, koun, kon do not sound like k/glottal stop/u, or k/glottal stop/uul or have the meaning of “god”. Actually, "to be sacre" is NOT [ku]. Delafosse (1929) p. 616 etre sacre= ko-nya, ku-nya (funny how you conveniently forget that this MANDE WORD HAS TWO SYLLABLES) and definitely does not have sound or consonant correspondence to [kglottalstopu] i.e. [k7u]. Other forms on p. 616 {v. intr.) ta-nto; (v. intr.) etre- (s.)-ko-ma,ku-ma. Again all words with TWO syllables and not sound correspondent to [k7u]. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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