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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Quetzalcoatl: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] LOL. [IMG]http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3333/3614369394_25957a89d9.jpg[/IMG] . Now what do we see in the picture above. First we find a Black man depicted as the trader god of the Maya at the court of a Mayan dignitary. This Black man has a reddish/orange-yellowish spear point [which would have been the color of a spear point made from copper and gold]. This vase supports the Indian tradition that Blacks introduced, and manufactured the spear point of the Black man on this vase. This vase proves that Blacks carried reddish/orange-yellowish spear points on the tip of their spears which would have resembled the spear point depicted on this vase. This is further proof of the Pre-Columbian presence of Blacks in the Americas. Reference John Boyd Thacher, Christopher Columbus,(New York, 1903) Vol. 2, p.380. [/qb][/QUOTE]Unfortunately for you, Clyde ,people can really read Maya glyphs (and not by pulling out little bits and pieces by your own mysterious system, interpreting them through a 19th century invented script, and finally providing a reading that no one else can replicate. The interpretation above is purely your imagination and need to support a preconceived idea. BTW [b]BOTH[/b] central figures have red feet and hands and are painted black. These Maya vases are funerary goods and this one represents the burial (going into the earth) of a Maya ruler. http://www.mayavase.com/com593.htm A REINTERPRETATION OF THE CHAMÁ VASE Elin C. Danien [QUOTE]Now, through an examination of the Chamá Vase from the Penn Museum collection, I can give a name to two of their rulers. The scene on the vessel (figure 3) shows two groups of figures facing each other across a kneeling figure flanked by two [b]black painted[/b] individuals. The interwoven mat design on the arms and legs of the kneeling figure is a symbol of royalty and identifies him as a member of the elite, perhaps a ruler of a small polity, although he wears nothing to announce such an exalted position. Judging from the combination of jaguar skin cape, elaborate jewelry, and fierce expression, the [b]black-painted man holding the spear[/b] is the most important figure in the scene. It had been generally accepted that the glyphs stood for the names of the actors, but they defied interpretation or sense in any of the highland idioms. However, in Eastern Cholan, the family of languages spoken in the Maya lowlands, they become clear. Thanks to the invaluable work of linguist Judith Storniolo of the University of Pennsylvania, a tentative interpretation of the inscription provides names for the figures, and conveys political and social information, including a previously unknown title for a religious office (Storniolo 2000: personal communication). Reading the scene from left to right, the first two figures, K’an Chubi, Yellow, or Precious Turkey, and Holtab Balam, Forehead or Headband Jaguar, have no central role in the proceedings. The name of the third figure is Bas Ch’am, which can be read as “Wrapper of the Harvest.” The [b]black painted figure[/b] next to Bas Ch’am is K’an ti Pop: Lord Fer de Lance. The glyphs accompanying the kneeling figure have a more enigmatic meaning. Ch’o Tz’apah Ah Waxak Haab Sus can be understood as “Lord Puma, he who has ruled for eight years, set him or it in place, ” with the final glyph meaning blood, or purifying. The glyphs before the commanding figure of the black-painted man holding the spear are read Ochma Kab Pop Muwan....Lord Owl, or Lord Muwan, entered the earth. The final figure is K’an Moo Ch’ok Ajaw, Young Lord Yellow Macaw. This vessel has been the object of differing interpretations, with its actors identified variously as supernaturals, underworld figures, and merchants. I argue that it commemorates a real event, and carries cultural information of importance in our understanding of the time, the place and the people. The important event being commemorated is the funeral, or the entering the earth, of Lord Muwan. His heir, the young lord, is behind him, on the viewer’s right, observing the ceremonies. The phrase ch’ok ahaw, literally, young sprout, is frequently used to identify the heir apparent. Similar scenes with both the dead king and the living heir are known from Palenque, where the dead ruler Pacal and his living successor, Chan Bahlum face each other. Among the attendants on the vase is the person who dresses the dead, Bas Ch’am, the “Wrapper of the Harvest.” Such a description of his function reinforces the argument made by Marshall Becker (1992), that interment of the dead for the Lowland Maya was not burial, but rather, an offering to the Earth Lord. K’an ti P’op, Lord Fer de Lance, is a central participant in the ceremonies surrounding this offering. The kneeling figure, Lord Puma is about to be sacrificed as part of the purification ritual in connection with Lord Muwan’s funerary ceremonies. The ‘sacrificial’ paper earrings he wears, his lack of other ornament, his position under the blade, all point to his imminent sacrifice (Schele and Miller 1986). The mat design on his thigh and arm identify him as a member of the elite class. When captives are shown on Lowland monuments, they are usually identified by their name glyphs on their bodies.[/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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