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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [QB] The origins of the Maya go back to the Ocos who as represented by their art were negroes or Blacks. [IMG]http://olmec98.net/OcosFemale.jpg[/IMG] [b]Ocos female of the Mokaya tradition (1600-800 BC).[/b] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness: There is nothing In West Africa at the same time period (or later) as Mesoamerican stone temple architecture that is remotely similar to it or made with similar technology [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8b/Mexico.Pue.Cholula.Pyramid.01.jpg[/IMG] [/qb][/QUOTE]Why should this temple be present in Africa at this time? Blacks were living in Mexico thousands of years before the Mande speaking Olmecs arrived in 1200BC. [/QUOTE]you made that up. pulled out of a hat [IMG]http://picturestack.com/736/973/IApPicture4GS4.png[/IMG] Ocos Figural Vessel — Pacific Coast, Mexico 1500 BC - 1200 BC Photograph of Pre-Mayan vessel from the Ocos ceramic complex in Mexico's Pacific coast. Crickets heard chirping [QUOTE]Originally posted by Clyde Winters: It is only natural that these First Nation Blacks in Mexico would make their own innovations in architectural form as time past. [IMG]http://www.blackpast.org/files/blackpast_images/Toure_Muhammud.jpg[/IMG] But the basic pyramidal idea remained constant in West Africa as indicated by the tomb of Askia. [/QUOTE]No comparison, a fifteenth century AD Islamic mosque made of mud compared to Olmec stone temples, Olmecs 1500 to 400 BC no ancient ocean worthy ships found in Central America no evidence only theory Egypt, Meroe are irrelevant we are talking about West Africa, Mande speakers. It doesn't matter the style, the monumental stone technology is not there. If you theorized that Egyptians sailed to Central America at least there would be some similarity in the architecture and type of colossal stone moving technology used to produce it [/qb][/QUOTE]1. Nubian, Garamante and Egyptian pyramids are relevant because they show that African people have been creative in pyramid building and at different times in different places Africans built pyramids. 2.I have never said the Olmec came from West Africa. I said they came from the Sahara or the sahel near one of the ancient tributaries of the Niger river. 3. The Mande speaking people had not reached the Niger Valley when the Olmec founded civilization in 1200 BC they were at this time spread from the Fezzan in Libya to Dar Tichitt in Mauretania. I have never claimed Egyptians sailed to the Americas, this was a theory of the Cocaine mummy researchers. [IMG]http://people.wku.edu/darlene.applegate/newworld/webnotes/unit_3/images_civilizations/olmec_venta_pyramid.jpg[/IMG] [b]LaVenta Pyramid[/b] What Olmec stone pyramid? [/QB][/QUOTE]
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