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'New' clues from thesis, including Nekht Ankh's Mtdna and yellow skin color in art
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Swenet: [QB] For everyone wondering why I described her the way I did, look at this piece, from her conclusion: [QUOTE]In conclusion, it is evident that “race” as understood today in terms of skin color was not a key identity marker for the ancient Egyptian. [b]Furthermore, “the first to call special attention to the Nubian’s [Nehesi] blackness were people [the Greeks] living outside Africa.”204[/b] In addition, the division of mankind into races as understood in the modern sense began with F. Bernier in the seventeenth century of our era.205[b]Thus the Afrocentric insistence on the ancient Egyptians as a black race proves anachronistic[/b] and limited because the ancient Egyptian did not conceptualize himself or herself in this way.[/QUOTE]Leaving aside the issue of whether or not the Ancient Egyptians saw themselves as part of the same lineage as people to the South, how is it okay for her to be talking about the blackness of Napatan Nubians, yet, a few lines later, complain it is anachronistic to refer to Egyptians as such? The last time I checked, the ancient Egyptians and ancient Sudanese were contemporary, and so, it would have to be anachronistic to refer to Sudanese as 'black' as well. The fact that she doesn't treat Napatans the same as the ancient Egyptians, shows there are other motives for shying away from calling them, or at least them, sans the nationalized Asiatics and Mediterraneans, black. Her thesis is in fact full with nagging complaints from herself and Egyptologists about why its problematic to refer to people as either black or white in a biological sense, yadi yadi yadi, only to reveal the triviality of such pretended 'expert posturing' by calling Napatan and Meroitic Nubians black several lines later. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: I'm not sure if the reddish brown hue of Egyptian males had to do [b]with concepts of the blood of life so much as the average complexion[/b][/QUOTE]It has been mentioned before by Egyptologists that the red paint may have had a youthful connotation to it, and there are several murals that confirm this, such as this one: [IMG]https://encrypted-tbn3.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQRjfegKPx6hkP8VfG20UCjw6inoI7oVPXQ8mldZ7TPkIChVWJx[/IMG] You don't see it in this repro, but the original image of this mural is similar to these scenes: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-3tPMmmmHr-I/TqI-FCSLkhI/AAAAAAAACKg/-pxuIACDy5w/s640/ancient-egyptian-circumcision.jpg http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d5/Akmanthor.jpg in the sense that the two figures who are doing the shooting are depicted lighter skinned (reddish), while the instructing figures behind them are depicted darker skinned (brown proper). [QUOTE]Originally posted by Djehuti: LOL I'm sure if these lineages were 'Near Eastern' or even European, we would not only know which specific lineages these were but we would NEVER heard the end of these findings.[/QUOTE]Well, whatever continental origin one believes this lineage has, it is another slap in the face of those who hold that the Ancient Egyptians are identical to the moderns. Nekht Ankh [IMG]http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/manchester/images/nekht_ankht.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://www.ancient-egypt.co.uk/manchester/images/manchester_museum_1100.jpg[/IMG] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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