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Marc - I'm still trying to differentiate Albinos from the Blacks and Mongols in ancient Asia. Needless to say it's confusing, as all western Albinos are anxious to hide their true Asian origins. Some interesting stuff from:
The Cambridge History of Early Inner Asia (Vol 1)
Inner Asia at the dawn of history:
One tends to believe that the culture of Mal'ta and Buret' developed from an original Aurignacian starting point in the far west, then, after several millenia, continued to steadily maintain the traditions inherited from the Upper Paleolithic of the west in a new location and during later times (the absolute age of Mal'ta is fourteen thousand years, i.e. the Magdalenian period.)
On the banks of the Angara these immigrants from the west continued to live the life of their ancestors. They constructed durable winter dwellings from the bones of the mammoth and rhinoceros, ethnographically similar to those of the Eskimos; they hunted these animals and also the reindeer with spears having large points made of mammoth tusk or deer horn. In the dwellings of Mal'ta and Buret' there have been preserved rich collections of artistic bone carvings which include a large group of sculpted female figures which are basically the same as the Aurignacian statuettes of Eastern and Western Europe; like them, they are magnificent nude mother-figures. Local variations exist, however, which are peculiar to a local school and distinguish them from the European figures, e.g. they are not faceless, but have elaborately carved physiognomies. Beside the nude figures there are those with clothing.
Note - Mal'ta goddesses are Steatopygic:
Quote: The next great step forward in the history of Inner Asia came about as the result of the introduction of a new material for the fashioning of implements and weapons: metal, (more concretely, copper and bronze). This transition and the earliest monuments of copper and bronze have been studied most thoroughly in the Minusinsk Basin.
Here the earliest culture, which was copper-stone or eneolithic, has been called the Afanasevo culture. Its monuments are well known in the Altai. The Afanasevo peoples still employed stone axes, beaters, spear- and arrowheads for their daily needs. They did not know how to melt or cast metal, and what metal they did use was probably from native ore. Copper instruments are represented only by needles, awls, small knives, and fittings for wooden vessels. Silver, gold, and meteorite iron were also used for ornaments. Thus we find a leather bracelet on the arm of a woman in a grave near Afanas'eva gora framed with iron rings. Ceramics still resemble those of the Neolithic, the vessels, often bulky and with a large holding capacity, have conical bottoms and their surfaces are completely covered with band-like designs which are primarily horizontal bands of the "herringbone" type, undulating lines, and zig-zags.
Culturally, the most important achievement of the Afanasevo tribes was the beginning of cattle breeding (sheep, horses, and cows), and, probably of agriculture. Their social structure remained as before, similar to that of the Neolithic tribes. Equality of Kinsmen is shown by absence of any indication of the primary position of any one individual. Important in their religion was the cult of the sun with which were connected strange censer-vessels which contained compartments and were in the form of cups resting on trays. Ochre also played a role and may have represented the "blood of the dead."
Physically, the Afanasevo peoples belonged to the Europoid race and resembled the Cro-Magnon peoples of Eastern Europe to whom are attributed the monuments of the Pit-grave culture. In their material culture we can detect contacts with the neighboring regions of the Urals, Central Asia, and the Black Sea steppes, to wit the Pit-grave culture, the Kelteminar, the Zamanbabin culture on the Zerafshan, and the Shigir culture of the Urals.
Of all these cultures, the Zamanbabin, which is dated the first half of the second millennium B.C., is of special interest because of its connections with the agricultural tribes of Central Asia. The Zamanbabin people who during this period replaced the Kelteminars in the lower reaches of the Zerafshan at Makhan-Karye, in addition to flint arrowheads, used copper extensively, to fashion various utensils such as simple knives, mirrors, fishhooks, unless they obtained these things from other tribes. This copper is arsenide with no admixture of tin.
The Zamanbabin people not only bred large and small cattle, but successfully practiced agriculture. Remnants of wheat and barley have been found. An intimate relation with the agriculturalists of the south is to be seen in a small image, a statuette of the Mother Goddess. The square clay vessels containing partitions must also be attributed to the south. These are "bird feeders" and are related to the concept of the soul being in the form of a bird. One half of the feeder contained grain, the other water, for the bird-souls of the departed.
Evidently the Zamanbabin culture originated with a colony of southern people who appeared in the midst of the hunter-fishermen and early cattle-breeding tribes. It is not impossible that from here radiated the influences which affected such complex cultural-historical entities as the Afanasevo culture on the Yenisei and in the Altai where besides distinct Kelteminar features also more southern elements such as paintings on various vessels, "censers," bird feeders, and the first metal tools and ornaments may be found. The Afanasevo culture which flourished toward the end of the third millenium gave way, during the beginning of the second millenium B.C., to the Okunev culture.3 1 This is shown by Okunev graves found in the Afanasevo burial grounds. It is assumed that the appearance of the Okunev culture at Minus is related to a new people, not Europoid, but Mongoloid.
Please note above - As usual Black people civilize Albinos - and do we get any thanks?
But I ran across this gem of a quote from online free dictionary concerning the Yamna culture:
Warning! The following article is from The Great Soviet Encyclopedia (1979). It might be outdated or ideologically biased. He,he,he: What they mean is that the Russians might tell the truth.
Pit-Grave Culture
the general name for the archaeological cultures dating from the Aeneolithic Period to the early Bronze Age (third millennium B.C.) that were widespread in the Caspian and Black Sea steppes. Remains of the Pit-Grave culture were first discovered by V. A. Gorodtsov in 1901 on the Severskii Donets River. The culture encompassed an area stretching from the southern Urals in the east to the Dnestr River in the west and from Ciscaucasia in the south to the Middle Volga Region in the north.
Nine local variants, corresponding to related tribal groups and archaeological cultures, have been identified: the Volga-Ural, Ciscaucasian, Don, Severskii Donets, Azov, Crimean, Lower Dnieper, Northwestern, and Southwestern variants. The principal unifying feature of all the variants is the burial ritual, characterized by flexed burials beneath mounds (the mounds are the most ancient found to date).
The Pit-Grave culture can be subdivided into three periods. During the first (early) period (first half and middle of the third millennium B.C.), the burial ritual was the same over the entire territory of the culture’s distribution: the body was placed on its back, with the head facing east, and was covered with ocher. Artifacts include pointed-bottom and flat-bottomed high-necked vessels, decorated with incised, punctate, and stamped designs, ornaments made of shell and bone, and stone articles, including zoomorphic “scepters”; metal was virtually nonexistent. Settlements consisted of the temporary huts of the stock raisers. Even as early as the first period, some Pit-Grave tribes penetrated the Danube area and the Balkan Peninsula.
During the second period (third quarter and beginning of the fourth quarter of the third millennium B.C.), several local variants emerged. In the Black Sea steppe region, a number of new features appeared, which existed alongside the older ones; they included burials with the dead placed on the side with the head facing west, ovate vessels with short necks, flat-bottomed pots, ornamentation with cord impressions, and copper articles (knives, awls). In the west, some tribes became sedentary and formed permanent settlements (Mikhailovka settlement, Skelia Quarry, and others on the lower Dnieper).
During the third period (end of the third to beginning of the second millennia B.C.), the local differences increased, and the archaic rituals and inventory were preserved only in the Volga-Ural variant. Farther west, the dead were not always covered with ocher, and there was no apparent orientation of the head; moreover, the burial pits had projections, the burials were flat-grave burials, and the pottery was flat-bottomed. Large copper articles appeared (wedge-shaped axes, lugged hammers), along with special complexes of bone ornaments with hammer-like pins and carts with solid wheels. At the end of the third period, the Pit-Grave culture disappeared because of the increased local differences and the spread of new cultures, chiefly the Catacomb culture.
The descendants of the Pit-Grave tribes in the east played an important role in the development of the Timber-Frame culture, while in the west they were assimilated by the tribes of the Catacomb, Middle Dnieper, and Usatovo cultures. The economy of the Pit-Grave tribes was based on nomadic and seminomadic stock raising. Land cultivation, along with pastured stock raising, played a secondary role in the river valleys. The descendants of the Pit-Grave culture became part of several ethnic groups of the Indo-European language family. (SeeMIKHAILOVKA SETTLEMENT; CATACOMB CULTURE; TIMBER-FRAME CULTURE; MIDDLE DNIEPER CULTURE; and USATOVO CULTURE.)
Marc, of course I want you to do something, just giving some background first.
DHDoxies Member # 19701
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Mike cut the Asian ****. Whites are NOT Albinos NOR are we Asians. Quit trying to steal our history, heritage, identities, our homeland of Europe. Quit trying to paint everyone in history Black & trying to write us out like we don't even exist. Stupid White people hating, history stealing, lying, Black racist, White people genocidist, Black supremacist POS scumbag black devil.
Mike111 Member # 9361
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^The Afanasevo culture which flourished toward the end of the third millenium gave way, during the beginning of the second millenium B.C., to the Okunev culture.
This is shown by Okunev graves found in the Afanasevo burial grounds. It is assumed that the appearance of the Okunev culture at Minus is related to a new people, not Europoid, but Mongoloid. With the advent of this new people, the burial rites were altered, in place of the round burial enclosures characteristic of the Afanasevo culture, there now appeared rectangular ones. The dead were buried within the enclosures in caskets made of stone slabs. Like their predecessors, the Afanasevo people, the Okunev people were cattle-breeders. Technically, the Okunev culture had a great deal in common with the Afanasevo. Stone was still used to make tools and weapons such as axes, arrowheads, marble discs, but forged items were also used (fishhooks, knives, temporal rings) and so were objects made by casting. In one of the Okunev graves the first cast copper hatchet to be found in Southern Siberia was discovered. Pottery showed great differentiation: the vessels are flat-bottomed and are either of a "jar" type or have the form of a pot with convex sides.
The amazing art of the Okunev people contrasts vividly with their comparatively primitive level of material culture. It is represented especially by monumental sculpture: stelae which were formerly believed to be of the age of the Karasuk. On these stelae are figures in relief masks which are half anthropomorphic, half zoomorphic, in many instances reminiscent of the muzzles of bulls to which have been added the horns of bulls or deer, and snakes. Radiating head ornaments are also to be seen. This complex symbolism of the Okunev stelae is increased by solar or cosmic symbols which are in the form of circles with branches: rays or crosses, inside them. Similar representations are also to be found on the slabs which were frequently used to construct the Okunev graves. On one such slab there was carved the figure of a being with a magnificent "corona," holding a spear in each hand. The faces vary from realistically executed sculpture to abstract representations with three symmetrically placed eyes and a mysterious stripe which divides the face. Frequently the mouth is either lacking or is astonishingly large. In two instances at the top of the stelae there is the sculptured head of a ram. Several of the figures have enormous bellies like those of a pregnant woman. On the belly of one figure there has been drawn the realistic snout of a predatory animal. Also carved on the Okunev grave slabs are the figures of predatory animals, panthers or tigers, to judge by their coiled tails. Sun symbols, circles, which contain cross marks, indicate the solar, cosmic nature of these figures of predatory animals. There are also realistic images of bulls with huge, curved horns. One tends to believe that the semantics of the Okunev stelae express a complex cycle of cosmic concepts which are related to the worship of the forces of nature common to cattle-breeding tribes and include the sun and fertility cult.
Clyde - Okunev Culture art seems prototypical ancient Black art. I know of no instance where Mongols produced anything of the like. I think the Albinos are trying to pull a "fast-one" on us. Please correct me if I am wrong.
Stelae of Okunev Culture
Mike111 Member # 9361
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Marc - I hope that you can still make forays into Eastern Europe. As you know, the point of Albino history is to obfuscate Black history as much as possible. Right now I'm trying to figure out who were really Avars and separating Avars from Bulgars. If you could find some ancient artifacts with faces it would be a great help.
Some quotes:
After Kubrat's Great Bulgaria was destroyed by the Khazars, some of the Bulgars fled to the west and founded a new Bulgar state (present day Bulgaria) near the Danubian Plain, under the command of Khan Asparukh. The most of the rest of the Bulgars fled to the north of the Volga River region and founded another state there called Volga Bulgaria (present day Chuvashia). The eldest son of Kubrat, Bat-Bayan Bezmer allied his Kara-Bulgars (Black Bulgars) with the Khazars, and became the forefather of the Hungarian Royal House of Árpád via Almysh. Kara-Bulgars were descendent of the tribes from Attila's right wing state called Kutrigurs.
Some of the Bulghar tribes remained in or near their traditional territories. This was true of the hordes of Batbaian (or Baian) and Kotragos. They appear in our later sources as the "Black" or "Inner" Bulghars, subjects of the Khazars.
Also find the Khailandur.
Here is something interesting:
Quote: The Khazars were heirs to the Sabir and Turk tradition of alliance with the Byzantine Empire and on occasion, figured prominently in imperial politics. Thus, in 732, Chichek, the daughter of the Khazar Kaghan was married to the son of Leo the Isaurian (711-41), the future emperor Constantine V. Their son Leo, who also wore the purple, was known as "the Khazar." Given the well documented reluctance of Byzantine royal families to marry "barbarians" (i.e. non-Byzantines), this is a concrete illustration of the importance of Khazaria in the world affairs of the mid 8th century. Khazaria constituted Constantinople's principal line of defence against incursions from the steppe. With the Khazars able to halt unruly tribes at the Volga, the Balkan and Caucasian approaches to the Empire were secure.
That means that there is probably a picture of Constantine V, like the one below of Manuel, somewhere in Eastern Europe.
DHDoxies Member # 19701
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Mike cut the Asian ****. Whites are NOT Albinos NOR are we Asians. Quit trying to steal our history, heritage, identities, our homeland of Europe. Quit trying to paint everyone in history Black & trying to write us out like we don't even exist. Stupid White people hating, history stealing, lying, Black racist, White people genocidist, Black supremacist POS scumbag black devil. Why don't you just admit for once, that the reason you are doing this is you HATE Whites & don't want us having anything. Why don't you admit that you don't want us having a history of any kind, no heritage of any kind, no identity of any kind, no homeland to call our own, nothing to be proud of as a people. You wish to harm White children by stealing what is rightfully theirs. SHAME ON YOU racist Black devil.
Clyde Winters Member # 10129
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quote:Originally posted by Mike111: Marc - I hope that you can still make forays into Eastern Europe. As you know, the point of Albino history is to obfuscate Black history as much as possible. Right now I'm trying to figure out who were really Avars and separating Avars from Bulgars. If you could find some ancient artifacts with faces it would be a great help.
Some quotes:
After Kubrat's Great Bulgaria was destroyed by the Khazars, some of the Bulgars fled to the west and founded a new Bulgar state (present day Bulgaria) near the Danubian Plain, under the command of Khan Asparukh. The most of the rest of the Bulgars fled to the north of the Volga River region and founded another state there called Volga Bulgaria (present day Chuvashia). The eldest son of Kubrat, Bat-Bayan Bezmer allied his Kara-Bulgars (Black Bulgars) with the Khazars, and became the forefather of the Hungarian Royal House of Árpád via Almysh. Kara-Bulgars were descendent of the tribes from Attila's right wing state called Kutrigurs.
Some of the Bulghar tribes remained in or near their traditional territories. This was true of the hordes of Batbaian (or Baian) and Kotragos. They appear in our later sources as the "Black" or "Inner" Bulghars, subjects of the Khazars.
Also find the Khailandur.
Here is something interesting:
Quote: The Khazars were heirs to the Sabir and Turk tradition of alliance with the Byzantine Empire and on occasion, figured prominently in imperial politics. Thus, in 732, Chichek, the daughter of the Khazar Kaghan was married to the son of Leo the Isaurian (711-41), the future emperor Constantine V. Their son Leo, who also wore the purple, was known as "the Khazar." Given the well documented reluctance of Byzantine royal families to marry "barbarians" (i.e. non-Byzantines), this is a concrete illustration of the importance of Khazaria in the world affairs of the mid 8th century. Khazaria constituted Constantinople's principal line of defence against incursions from the steppe. With the Khazars able to halt unruly tribes at the Volga, the Balkan and Caucasian approaches to the Empire were secure.
That means that there is probably a picture of Constantine V, like the one below of Manuel, somewhere in Eastern Europe.
Mike the Magyar or Hungarians claim they came from Kush in Nubia. I discuss their history at site below:
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"The Khazars [...] are of two kinds, one called Kara-Khazars [black Khazars], who are swarthy verging on deep black as if they were a kind of Indian, and a white kind [Ak-Khazars] who are strikingly handsome" - Mu'jam Al-Buldan, Yaqut al-Hamawi (13th century)