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IronLion
Member # 16412
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Modern Indo-European languages - which include English - originated in Turkey about 9,000 years ago, researchers say.

Their findings differ from conventional theory that these languages originated 5,000 years ago in south-west Russia.

The New Zealand researchers used methods developed to study virus epidemics to create family trees of ancient and modern Indo-European tongues to pinpoint where and when the language family first arose.

Their study is reported in Science.

...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19368988
 
IronLion
Member # 16412
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Turkey is in old Anatolia.

The first Anatolians were from Africa, Ta'muri!

Muurs! [Big Grin]

"...one can identify Negroid traits of nose and prognathism appearing in Natufian latest hunters (McCown, 1939) and in Anatolian and Macedonian first farmers , probably from Nubia via the predecessors of the Badarians and Tasians...." -- Ange1, 1972, Biological Relations of Egyptians and Eastern Mediterranean Populations during pre-dynastic and Dynastic Times, courtesy of Journal of Human Evolution, pg 307-313.
 
zarahan- aka Enrique Cardova
Member # 15718
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^^Good point IronLion. Those early Anatolians resembled
tropical Africans.

"Descriptions and photographs of late paleolithic
remains from Egypt indicate characteristics which
distinguish them clearly from their European
counterparts at 30,000 and 20,000 years BP (cf.
Thoma, 1984; Stewart, 1985; Angel 1986). These
characteristics, commonly called "Negroid", are
shared with later Nile Valley and more southerly
groups. Epipaleolithic Nile valley remains
diverge notably from their Maghreban and European
counterparts in key craniofacial characteristics
(see comments in Keita, 1990); although late
Natufian hunters and early Anatolian farmers
(Angel, 1972) shared many of these traits,
suggesting late Paleolithic migration out of
Africa,
as supported by archaeology (Bar Yosef,
1987)."

--International journal of anthropology, Volume 10. 1995. pg 110


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"Sub-Saharan" genetic elements found as far afield as the Turkish and Greek regions

QUOTE:
"A late Pleistocene-early Holocene northward
migration (from Africa to the Levant and to Anatolia)
of these populations has been hypothesized from
skeletal data (Angel 1972, 1973; Brace 2005) and
from archaeological data, as indicated by the
probable Nile Valley origin of the "Mesolithic"
(epi-Paleolithic) Mushabi culture found in the
Levant (Bar Yosef 1987). This migration finds
some support in the presence in Mediterranean
populations (Sicily, Greece, southern Turkey,
etc.; Patrinos et al.; Schiliro et al. 1990) of
the Benin sickle cell haplotype. This haplotype
originated in West Africa and is probably
associated with the spread of malaria to southern
Europe through an eastern Mediterranean route
(Salares et al. 2004) following the expansion of
both human and mosquito populations brought about
by the advent of the Neolithic transition (Hume
et al 2003; Joy et al. 2003; Rich et al 1998).

This northward migration of northeastern African
populations carrying sub-Saharan biological
elements is concordant with the morphological
homogeneity of the Natufian populations
(Bocquentin 2003), which present morphological
affinity with sub-Saharan populations (Angel
1972; Brace et al. 2005). In addition, the
Neolithic revolution was assumed to arise in the
late Pleistocene Natufians and subsequently
spread into Anatolia and Europe (Bar-Yosef 2002),
and the first Anatolian farmers, Neolithic to
Bronze Age Mediterraneans and to some degree
other Neolithic-Bronze Age Europeans, show
morphological affinities with the Natufians (and
indirectly with sub-Saharan populations; Angel
1972; Brace et al 2005), in concordance with a
process of demic diffusion accompanying the
extension of the Neolithic revolution (Cavalli-
Sforza et al. 1994)."


-- F. X. Ricaut, M. Waelkens. (2008). Cranial
Discrete Traits in a Byzantine Population and
Eastern Mediterranean Population Movements Human
Biology - Volume 80, Number 5, October 2008, pp.
535-564

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IronLion
Member # 16412
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^Teach


Muurz:

The Black Arabs of Turkey

Afro-Turks, African Turks, or Turkish Africans are people of Black African descent in Turkey. “Afro-Turk” is a newly invented word as in Turkey those Black African descendants have been traditionally named as “the Arabs”. The Turkish word for this is Arapi (Arab). Today in Turkey they are additionally referred to as Afrika kökenli Türkler, a name which could hide their historical status.

It is very interesting that in Turkey, black Africans are called Arapis. It is all the more interesting when one realizes that many of the pale so-called Arabs of today, who occupy the Arabian Gulf actually have recent Turkish origins and this is often borne out by the tribal surname of many contemporary Saudis and Jordanians, the name “al-Turki”.

The link between Turkis and Arabia should be clear to anyone who has done the least research. The Turks were a Tartar tribe of Central Asia that were civilized and cultured by the noble Black-a-Muurs of southern Europe, Africa and Arabia. Prior to their contact with the Muurs, the Tartars were a nomadic, warring horde of people wandering about for millenia in the wastes of the European Steepes.

The Muurs had been their guiding lights for many hundred centuries, and their masters. Since the times of the Kemitian Egyptians and the North-East African Phoenicians, who discovered them, the Muurs had tried to culture and raise the Turkis. The Romans had used them as mecenaries and slaves between 4 B.C. and the fall of Constantinople....

Muurz @:

http://www.africaresource.com/rasta/sesostris-the-great-the-egyptian-hercules/the-black-arabs-of-turkey-afro-turks-by-oguejiofor-annu/
 
Clyde Winters
Member # 10129
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quote:
Originally posted by IronLion:
Modern Indo-European languages - which include English - originated in Turkey about 9,000 years ago, researchers say.

Their findings differ from conventional theory that these languages originated 5,000 years ago in south-west Russia.

The New Zealand researchers used methods developed to study virus epidemics to create family trees of ancient and modern Indo-European tongues to pinpoint where and when the language family first arose.

Their study is reported in Science.

...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19368988

.


New Lecture on the lack of validity for an ancient Origin (9kya) for Indo-European languages.See:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jHsy4xeuoQ

.
 
mena7
Member # 20555
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I think Indo Euro language come from one African language or a variation of one African language.The British are saying English come from Anatolia to not say the Englisn language come from Africa maybe proto saharan or niger kongo languages.The Anatolian were black people from Africa.

According to prof Catherine Acholonu Celt is the foundation of the English language and English borrow a lot of word from German.She say the Celt were from Africa.Prof Acholonu state there is a lot of Igbo and Kanaanite words in English.There is also many Egyptians words in The English language.
 



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