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The Almoravid Moors were Islamic fundamentalists.
mena7 Member # 20555
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The speaker in the idiot guide to Islam is very knowledgeble and articulate in his youtube video.The two videos Scientist and Islam are great.Another great video in the serie is the Myth of Islamic civilization.
Western Academia is always crediting the Arab who are today mulato with great civilisation and the other hand they denied black African origin of civilization by not recognizing or minimized the black race of the Egyptian. Nomadic people doesnt create advance civilizations.The Nomadic white barbarian who invaded Europe and the 5 cent didnt create a new civilization, the invading Arab nomad who invaded the middle east India and Africa didnt create a new civilization, The nomad Mongols who invaded most of Asia didnt create a new civilization.The white barbarian adopted the conquered Roman civilization,the nomadic Arabs adopted the conquered Byzantine, Persian, Coptic Egyptian, Indian and Moorish civilizations, The nomadic Mongols adopted the Chinese, Persian and Indian civilizations. Nomadic people are tough and great warrior not inventor of civilizations.The Nomadic Arabs couldnt reinvent the wheel, The Egyptian, Greek, Persian, Phoenician, Roman already created great civilizations that lasted thousand of years in the Islamic empire area.The Nomadic black and mulato Arabs just copied those civilization repacked them and retransmited them to the middle east and Western Europe.
Lioness the Almoravid didnt create Moorish Spain civilization.The Almoravid later came to Spain as soldier to help the black Spanish Moors who were being attacked by the northern Christian.They decided to stay in Spain, they were not the Moorish scientists and scholars but the soldiers and politicians.I think the Moorish civilization in Spain and Morocco was more North African and Egyptian then Arab. North Africa had civilizations as old as the Roman Empire like Carthage, Mauritania and Numidia.Carthage was a more advance civilization then Rome before its destruction by the Roman.The North African Moors could have build their own civilization using the Arabic language and Islam
The desertic Arabic peninsula didnt have the population to people the middle east and North africa.Its look like North African and west Asian change their name to Arab and adopted the Arabic language who was similar to Phoenician an international trading language.The Egyptian migrated to Spain in mass during Ancient time, Classical time and the Islamic period.
Western Academia are promoting the myth of nomadic Arab civilization to hide the importance of black civilization in Egypt, Mesopotamia, Phoenicia and Carthage.
Firewall Member # 20331
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Interesting.
the lioness, Member # 17353
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quote:Originally posted by mena7:
Lioness the Almoravid didnt create Moorish Spain civilization.The Almoravid later came to Spain as soldier to help the black Spanish Moors who were being attacked by the northern Christian.
Starting in the 5th century Spain was ruled by the Visigoths who were Germanic like the Franks and Vandals. In 589, their King,King Reccared , converted his people to Catholicism. Later the Arab Islamic conquest dominated most of North Africa by 640 AD. In 711 the Islamic Berber Tariq ibn-Ziyad and an Arab raiding party of Umayyad invaded the Visigothic Kingdom of Spain (Hispania) and took over. Later in 1086 the Almoravids came into power.
the lioness, Member # 17353
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The Umayyad conquest of Hispania gave birth to a period in human history of almost unique cultural exchange. So famed did the academies and libraries of Muslim Spain become that scholars flocked to study and research and collaborate there from such centers of learning as Paris and Oxford University]]. On the one hand, the story of Christian-Muslim-Jewish relations from the invasion until the Fall of Granada, the last Muslims emirate in 1492 cannot be reduced to one of harmony. On the other hand, it cannot be reduced to a story of constant hostility either. The reality was more complex. As O'Shea points out, O’Shea both Christians and Muslims are often guilty of a type of amnesia when they recollect their past encounters, so that epic battles and milestones, such as battles fought in Spain between 711 and 1492, are written large while incidents of convivencia are forgotten; "By combining the epochal battles with the eras of convivencia, a clearer picture of the complex encounter of Christianity and Islam emerges, one that combats the selective, agenda-driven amnesia that has settled over the subject among some of the religious chauvinists of our own day.”
lamin Member # 5777
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Source and links please.
-Just Call Me Jari- Member # 14451
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quote:Originally posted by lamin: Source and links please.
Working on it, stay tuned.
the lioness, Member # 17353
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dana what to you think of this "Islamic Debunking" thread?
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