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[QUOTE]Originally posted by the lioness,: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB] What you and many others FAIL to Understand is that Islam/Muslim Nations HAVE went through Secularization/Liberalization. What do you think Andalus was?? A Muhammadan state that allowed Drinking, depiction of Animals and Humans in Art, Secular Science and Learning, Jews and Christians in the Upper Echelons of Society? The Shia Fatamids, the Abbasids etc all were influenced by non Muslims in Upper Echelons of the Intelligentsia as well as the Gov. Esp Jews, Persians and Christians. The Christian Nubians were very vital to the Fatamid Army for example. Yet time and time again the true Koran abding Muhammdans would take over and turn what little Islam had to offer into the gutter of 7th century Arabia. [/QUOTE]In al-Andullus the dynasty of the Almoravids (1062-1147) began in southern Morocco and moved into al-Andalus. The Berber Almoravids were harsh, puritanical, orthodox Muslims, critical of the grandeur of the earlier Ummayads they considered decadent. The Almohads (1147-1258) displaced them, another strict Muslim regime, and by 1159 briefly united the Maghrib all the way from al-Andalus in Iberia to Ifriqya (Libya) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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