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[QUOTE]Originally posted by beyoku: [QB] @ Amun-Ra The Ultimate . I am not about to reply to all of your Gobbledygook. After you read something you have to think long and hard about its implications as a hypothesis. You cannot just mishmash a bunch of data together which seems to be what you are doing. [QUOTE] There is also an ABSENCE of Nilo-Saharan related early cultural material in areas known to have been inhabited by the [b]core Afrasian/E-m35 populations[/b] . IE - E-m35 lineages are present very early in the Levant and of course the Horn where they have their origin yet these population are at the tail end of a Sudanic pottery tradition. The horn is at the tail end of a Nilo-Saharan affiliated Pastoral tradition. - Beyoku [/QUOTE]Notice I said the "CORE" E-m35 carriers. E-m35 originated in the Horn of Africa and could have spread to Nilo or Proto-Nilo-Saharans much earlier than the influence of Nilo-Saharan technology the other way. A-m91 would still be indicative of a Core Nilo Saharan population while E-m35 a core Proto-AfroAsiatic one. If the core E-m35 population in the horn were Nilo-Saharan then they would not be lacking in Nilo Saharan technology. Southern Nilotics of Sudan are seen as the best population representing the Remnant of the Sudanic pastoral complex. They are overwhelmingly A and B. If anything the reverse is true and A-M91 has a longer presence among Afroastic speakers but that is s different argument for a different day. Addressing your Climate controlled Occupation of the Egyptian Sahara: This is some of what Kropelin and Kuper state: [QUOTE] The Eastern Sahara of Egypt, Sudan, Libya and Chad was home to nomadic people who followed rains that turned the desert into grassland. When the landscape dried up about 7,000 years ago, there was a mass exodus to the Nile and other parts of Africa. [/QUOTE][i]Now remember what one of the first articles I linked to said about how the population of Wadi Hower in ANCIENT Sudan were the Ancestors of SOUTHERN Sudanese and Chadian Nilo-Saharan speakers. E1b1b lineages are not Key in Southern Sudanese or Chadians Nilo-Saharans. IN fact the mutation of V32 found in Modern Sudan didn't even exist at some of these early dates.[/i] [QUOTE] Nomadic human settlers moved in from the south, taking up residence beside rivers and lakes. They were hunter-gatherers at first, living off plants and wild game. Eventually they became more settled, domesticating cattle for the first time, and making intricate pottery. [/QUOTE][i]This is somewhat indicative of the Entire Sahara. Research does not indicate E-M35 lineages in Africa push from from some Central Sub Saharan or even East Central sub Saharan source. Instead E-m35 has a clear northward migration associated with areas of the Horn and Red Sea. Most of the research do date does not show E-m35 having some kind of Ancient East to West Sahelian migration. Furthermore, during these early dates the core E-m35 region on in the Horn does not even have pottery, nor do they have cattle this early.[/i] [QUOTE] Humid conditions prevailed until about 6,000 years ago, when the Sahara abruptly dried out. There was then a gradual exodus of people to the Nile Valley and other parts of the African continent. [/QUOTE][i]Again, E-M35 lineages do not show a distribution of being pushed into the Nile AND to "other parts of the African continent" (Think West and Central Sub Saharan Africa) E-M35 shows a Magreb, Horn, and Nile valley distribution pushing south mainly through the Nile Basin and Rift Valley only. E-M2, A3b2, and B2a1a show a wide distribution and would better fit such a hypothesis.[/i] http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5192410.stm [/QB][/QUOTE]
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