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[QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [QB] Of course my def. of Zionism is "simplistic" as you say, considering Zionism as a political movement is a modern one, but thats the point the very CORE of Zionism is as you say "Jewish Nationalism" or more important that the Jews as a Chosen people over others, and the Historical Right of Israel to the Jews in Modern Times. The Koran fits BOTH criteria as Allah says Israel is the Jews even in the "Last Days" and they are chosen over the Alamin. Maybe you have another name for Allah's beliefs and can tell me it, but Zionist seems to fit IMO. [QUOTE]Originally posted by africurious: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by -Just Call Me Jari-: [qb] ^^^ Zionism/Zionist is the idea that the Jews have historical and Religious right to the Land of Israel. Allah in Muhammads Koran is clearly a Zionist. [/qb][/QUOTE]Your definition of Zionism is woefully simplistic. Zionism is an extreme form of jewish nationalism that started in the late 1800's. It's aim is to bring all jewish adherents to palestine and form a country for and by jews. It's most cherished tenet is that all jews in the world have the same culture and are descended from judeans and therefore they have a right to the land of "ancient israel" as it was their forefather's. Most of the intellectual proponents of Zionism were not religious jews but they saw the old testament as being historically accurate and used it to claim their right to the land through blood descent. One can believe in the religious doctrine that palestine is the promised land of the jews and still not be Zionist. For most of the last 2 millennia, the jews had not sought to conquer palestine and claim any land as their birth right, nor had they migrated en masse to palestine. These things are recent phenomena driven by the nationalism of ashkenazic jews in central and eastern europe. There is even a sect of Jews who is vehemently opposed to zionism. Muslims who deny the "jewish promised land" details in islam are either ill-informed and/or close-minded buffoons, but islam or allah as presented by islam is definitely not zionist. Matter of fact, jews before the 1800s were not zionist either. [/qb][/QUOTE] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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